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Anyone Doing This?

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Posted on April 4, 2015 at 08:59:58

Gerry E.
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Use their CD/SACD player for SACD playback only and also use it as a transport into a DAC for RBCD playback?

Besides the cost of the DAC, you would also need a digital cable and another pair of interconnects (assuming you didn't want to swap interconnects every time you switched between SACD and CD).

Thanks!

Gerry

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RE: Thanks Guys!

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A matter of opinion I suppose.

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RE: Anyone Doing This? , posted on April 4, 2015 at 12:08:55

HighEndWire
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I did at one point (do file playback now) until I found I liked the overall presentation using an HDMI audio de-embedder out of my Oppo BDP-83 (converting to 24/88.2) and going into the DAC. I do that in a secondary system now. I have file playback but if someone wants to play an SACD I have the de-embedder and an upgraded power supply for it. I have another digital cable from the coax output of the player if someone wants to hear a CD.

Yep. , posted on April 4, 2015 at 14:00:24
Prisoners Audiophile Posts: 4493 Location: Chicago Joined: June 13, 2004	I use my Sony 3100ES disc player for SACD and used to play CDs through it and a Peachtree iDac. Now all of my CDs have been transferred to a Sony HAP-Z1ES player and I no longer have the Peachtree. Occasionally I'll play a CD through the 3100 though.

RE: Yep. , posted on April 4, 2015 at 17:45:14
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	Prisoner- how do you like the 3100 ?

Yes, posted on April 4, 2015 at 18:01:37
kh6idf Audiophile Posts: 1474 Location: Texas Joined: May 2, 2001	Sony DVP-NS500V, analog SACD out to preamp for SACD, optical digital out to DAC (Behringer DEQ2496 with internal AKM 4393 DAC).

Sony 3100, posted on April 5, 2015 at 06:45:36
Prisoners Audiophile Posts: 4493 Location: Chicago Joined: June 13, 2004	So much that I bought a second one. It sounds great with SACD and better than every other disc player I tried with CD. I had a Denon 2900 and an Integra DPS 6.7 on hand for a direct comparison. SACD was very good on all of them but I preferr the Sony for CD. (All direct, no external DAC used). I sold the Denon and kept the Integra. Only complaint about the Sony us the long loading time.

RE: Sony 3100, posted on April 5, 2015 at 06:50:49
Prisoners Audiophile Posts: 4493 Location: Chicago Joined: June 13, 2004	Here it is with the other Sony pieces

Yesiree, posted on April 5, 2015 at 07:14:18
LWR Audiophile Posts: 66808 Location: The woods Joined: August 12, 2003	McI tosh SACD/CD player. Into a Pre=amp for SACD and analog out for CDs. But I use the digital out into my DAC for CD most of the time as it is a better DAC than the internal McIntosh one.

RE: Sony 3100, posted on April 5, 2015 at 09:07:02
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	Beautiful! pic.

RE: Sony 3100, posted on April 5, 2015 at 09:07:54
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	That really says alot. I can remember at one time, not long ago, Sony used a slogan "It's A Sony".

you bet, posted on April 5, 2015 at 11:53:25
mbnx01 Audiophile Posts: 7956 Location: Eagle, Idaho Joined: October 22, 2004	Yup. 'A lie is halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on'. -Mark Twain

Thanks Guys!, posted on April 5, 2015 at 12:26:21

Gerry E.
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I'm using a Marantz SA-11S3 which has outstanding CD as well as SACD playback. However, Schiit's statement DAC the Yggy, will be available soon and is supposed to be very special.

Gerry

RE: Thanks Guys!, posted on April 5, 2015 at 17:40:35
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	Keep us posted -Gerry.

Somewhat, posted on April 6, 2015 at 12:43:20
sbrians Audiophile Posts: 1455 Joined: March 4, 2002	I now have re-configured my system to incorporate my subwoofer on a Y from my front 2 channels. And put Morrow MA-3s on the output of my Oppo BDP-83 for SACDs. For CDs I use an old, but much better transport - a Sony S7000 and then into my DAC. So, I'm essentially doing what you proposed, only I now switch transports also, for CDs.

RE: Somewhat, posted on April 7, 2015 at 17:55:06
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	which DAC are you using w/ the Sony?

Octave, posted on April 8, 2015 at 08:11:01
sbrians Audiophile Posts: 1455 Joined: March 4, 2002	by Metrum

RE: Sony 3100, posted on April 8, 2015 at 20:54:38
starnail Audiophile Posts: 14 Joined: October 14, 2008	Hey Prisoners, How do you like the Sony amp? Can you compare it to other amps you may have used (or heard) in the past. Thanks

Yes, posted on April 8, 2015 at 21:54:12
PS Yeo Audiophile Posts: 274 Joined: September 5, 2001	Marantz SA11S2 (custom modded) for SACD playback, and used as Transport for RBCD. Audio GD Master 7 DAC (in stock form) for RBCD. Regards PS Yeo

Link: , posted on April 9, 2015 at 16:28:06

Prisoners
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I compared it to a few of the better amps that I've either owned or took home for a couple of weeks. I've owned plenty of others that weren't in the same league such as Yamaha, Integra, Adcom, and B&K.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=590262

RE: Octave, posted on April 9, 2015 at 18:14:16
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	Very nice.

RE: Yes, posted on April 9, 2015 at 18:14:43
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	PS- whom modded your Marantz spinner?

RE: Yes, posted on April 9, 2015 at 21:48:31
PS Yeo Audiophile Posts: 274 Joined: September 5, 2001	I enjoy tweaking Electronics as I am a R&D EE for more than 25 years in practice. Regards PS Yeo

RE: Yes, posted on April 10, 2015 at 03:38:27
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	Can you describe your mod(s) to the Marantz ?

RE: Sony 3100, posted on April 10, 2015 at 23:13:03

Disbeliever
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I bought the Sony amp TA-1ES on their 30 Day trial offer and despite the IMO false magazine rave reviews it sounds very artificial ,.I returned it for a full carriage paid refund. I am a Sony fan and for the past 6 years have and still use the excellent Sony combo Str-DA5400ES AVR (UK version with HATS) & the XA5400ES SACD/CD player. This latest Sony amp has several defects, the heat sinks are too small and it runs too hot,the pre can not be separated from the power amp so it will not be suitable for use in a HT or surround setup, as always you must try before you buy and ignore all magazine reviews.

A matter of opinion I suppose. , posted on April 11, 2015 at 09:30:04

Prisoners
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Mine doesn't run hot and the lack of pre-outs is not a defect,just a feature that isn't there. I wouldn't describe it as "artificial" but I'm not claiming it's the last word in amplification either. IMO it's an amazing integrated amplifier in it's price class that would probably cost twice as much if anyone other than Sony made it. Frankly I don't see how they are making anything on this or the companion HAP-Z1ES that also sells for $2k. The two work very well together especially when using XLR cables.

Every amplifier (separates or integrated) that I thought outperformed the Sony by a real difference cost a lot more. Products from Hegel and Rogue that I took home were no doubt better sounding but only after reaching the $7-8K mark. Those that I listened to in the Sony's price range did not equal it. Bottom line is I'm very happy with this system and it's relative affordability.

IIRC......, posted on April 12, 2015 at 21:56:39

PS Yeo
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As the Modifications were done 4 years back, IIRC :

1. Improvements to the I/V converter's critical resistors & Caps. Improved power supply decoupling
2. Improved supply decoupling to the LPF section.
3. Upgraded the NFB network resistors of the O/P buffer section to Caddock MK132
4. Increased the audio section supplies from +/- 11V to +/- 12V.
5. Output coupling caps upgrades and additional bypass with 1uF 200V PPFX-S
6. Tweaked to the 5.6V Zener Voltage reference from the Main regulator (+/- 12V now)
7. Changed the Caps for main supplies de-coupling and added Solen MKP Caps.
8. Improved de-coupling to the 5V voltage reference at the negative input of the I/V converters.
9. Many other small tweaks that unable to recall now. Most of the audio section's original caps and resistors been changed (Both values and types).

Regards
PS Yeo

RE: Anyone Doing This? , posted on June 15, 2015 at 10:27:18
Jeff Starr Audiophile Posts: 1574 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Joined: March 4, 2000	Hi, I know this is an old topic, but what de-embedder are you using? I have an Oppo 83SE, and I'd never heard of this.

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