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Stand alone hi-rez recorder?

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Posted on October 14, 2014 at 23:01:28
barondla
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 I have a Pioneer Elite CD recorder. It is a real, stand alone hi fi component. Does any one make a similar component that records in hi rez 24/96or192 or DSD? Would love to convert LPs to hi-rez digital.
thanks
barondla ( love hi-rez, computers not so much).

 

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RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 00:31:27
John Elison
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 I just bought a TASCAM DA-3000 DSD recorder. It records in PCM up to 24/196 and DSD 2.8-MHz as well as DSD 5.6-MHz. It sounds very good to me. I like the sound of its DAC so much that I have been using it to play DSD files directly from a USB flash drive. I also recorded two LPs in DSD 5.6-MHz and they came out superb.

Best regards,
John Elison

 

Alesis MasterLink, posted on October 15, 2014 at 06:02:02
rlw
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 This has been around for years...
-RW-

 

Does not record to disc..., posted on October 15, 2014 at 06:04:17
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 This unit does not record to discs, memory cards only.

-RW-

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 06:18:04
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 The facility I loved on minidisc was autofades, in and out, with selectable time to fade. Does this have the facility? Looks a great replacement for my Tascam SS-R1.

Dave

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 09:31:02
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 No, the TASCAM DA-3000 is simply a stand alone digital recorder. You will have to do your mastering on a computer. Its removable memory cards makes transferring your recordings to your computer for mastering very convenient, though.

The Alesis Masterlink is a stand-alone recorder with on-board mastering capabilities. Unfortunately, it was discontinued a few years ago so you will have to buy one on the used market. Its highest resolution is 24/96 and you have to burn CD-Rs to get your recording off its hard drive. It's a good platform for recording, mastering and burning 16/44 Redbook CD-Rs, but it is somewhat inconvenient for making 24/96 digital recordings in that getting the finished product off the Masterlink requires burning CD-24s, which can hold only 21-minutes of music each at 24/96 resolution.

Good luck,
John Elison

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 16:18:18
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 The Tascam DR-680 does 8 channels of 2496 and can do 2 channels of 24192. I own 2 of the tascam DR-2ds which I find excellent small SD card 2496 recorders. It even has 4 channels of built in mic pre's for location recording.

Even the affordable Sony Sound Forge Audio Studio handles 24192 for mastering. Pretty easy way to handle your files.

For me the ease of pcm mastering would lead me away from DSD and at 24192 bring one very close if not AT DSD sound quality.
Jim Tavegia

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on October 16, 2014 at 13:58:51
oldmkvi
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 Sony D100 takes Line In.
Zoom H4N also.
Sony does all PCM and 2.8 DSD, Zoom 24/96.
I've used both for LP and DAT Archiving,
they are both great products, and simple to use.

 

On the Sony & Zoom, posted on October 16, 2014 at 17:27:06
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 can you adjust input level? My Linn Linto/Benz Ace produces fairly high gain.

 

RE: On the Sony & Zoom, posted on October 16, 2014 at 18:10:51
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 The Sony has a 20 db Pad for Mic and Line In.
The Zoom doesn't, but on both you set the recording level, monitor the VU Meter.
You would need to experiment a little, to get ideal results.
Both have Headphone Output and Line Out, in addition to tranferring Files
to Computer.
That Tascam unit may be better, but the Zoom is pretty cheap these days, and the sony is $800.
I use it all the time for recording rehearsals and concerts.
I love it!

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on October 17, 2014 at 09:03:04
barondla
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 Do any of these units allow marking tracks for songs or does even that have to be done later in the computer?
thanks

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on October 17, 2014 at 11:09:19
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 The TASCAM DA-3000 can mark tracks for songs.

 

RE: +1 nt, posted on October 17, 2014 at 11:37:34
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That's really nifty: A question..., posted on October 19, 2014 at 13:43:34
kuma
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 how do you transfer the files from the flash card to a mac laptop?

 

RE: That's really nifty: A question..., posted on October 19, 2014 at 14:40:00
John Elison
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 Beats me! I don't have a mac laptop.

I use SDHC cards for recording and my Toshiba laptop accepts SDHC cards directly. That's how I transfer files.

If you're interested, the DA-3000 manual is available to download from the TASCAM website.

Best regards,
John Elison

 

USB. nt, posted on October 19, 2014 at 19:35:09
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I don't see USB input on the unit..., posted on October 20, 2014 at 00:33:16
kuma
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 or card reader device with a USB connection to the laptop?

 

No worries!, posted on October 20, 2014 at 00:38:54
kuma
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 Still trying to find a painless way to record vinyl.

A few years ago a friend brought over his entire recording hardware and a cob of cables. It was painful....

The Tascam so far seems very smart in terms of usability. Maybe they'd come up with a USB socket in the future. ( that would make it very easy )

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on October 20, 2014 at 05:40:56
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 Anyone care to comment on the Korg MR2000S ?

 

RE: No worries!, posted on October 20, 2014 at 06:43:30
John Elison
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 The DA-3000 has two USB ports, one for a keyboard and the other for a USB flash drive to transfer recorded music files for export. It will also playback files from a USB flash drive but it can record to SDHC and CF cards only. You should read the manual before jumping to conclusions. Actually, you would know it accepts USB flash drives if you read the specifications.

Good luck,
John Elison

 

Here's a link to the Sweetwater Page. nt, posted on October 20, 2014 at 06:49:37
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RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on November 6, 2014 at 05:39:50
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 John, your Oppo 105 will not automatically put track markers on Tascam-produced CDRs. At least if it's like my Tascam (CD-RW700). So each CDR is just one long track, if you don't insert the markers manually (or if it isn't possible after the fact, with the DA-300)

The Oppo is the ONLY player that won't do this, IME. Except for other Oppo models like the BDP-83SE.

I queried Oppo about this, they agreed with me about the no-track-markers behavior, said they might consider adding it in firmware. Maybe in 6 months or so. I'm not holding my breath.

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on November 6, 2014 at 08:41:45
John Elison
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 I'm not sure what you're referring to regarding the Oppo BDP-105. It is a player only and therefore does not insert track markers on anything. Furthermore, I have never played a CD-R in my Oppo BDP-105D. I don't think I've played a CD-R or CD in anything in well over a year since I ripped all my CDs and CD-Rs to my hard drive so they can be played using a music server or through the USB port of my Oppo BDP-105D. I began using a music server two years ago and now I have replaced it with an Oppo BDP-105D.

Surprisingly, I still have my old TASCAM CD-RW700 on a shelf in the garage, but I haven't used it to make a CD-R in close to 10-years since buying an Alesis Masterlink. I just replaced my Alesis Masterlink a couple of months ago with a TASCAM DA-3000 DSD recorder. It has a feature to insert track markers automatically during recording, but this feature is intermittent when recording vinyl because it looks for a specific level of silence in-between tracks and vinyl always seems to produce some noise. Therefore, when the threshold is set for marking vinyl, it also places markers in the quiet passages of music. Consequently, it is best to insert track markers manually or afterward during mastering.

I guess what you're telling me is that the Oppo BDP-105D does not recognize track markers inserted onto CD-Rs by your TASCAM CD-RW700. Is that what you're saying? I don't play CDs or CD-Rs anymore, so I really don't know. All my music is arranged so that each track is an individual file on my hard drive. Then there's a file folder containing each album.

Thanks,
John Elison

 

RE: Stand alone hi-rez recorder?, posted on November 6, 2014 at 10:06:21
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 What I mean is that there's something in the Oppo --and Oppo freely admits this -- that overrides or ignores the Tascam's ability to automatically insert track markers when you instruct it to do so. Oppo clearly doesn't think this is important because there are apparently so few of us who still use stand-alone CDR recorders. Or something like that.

I know how iffy it is to try to use the Tascam to insert markers when recording vinyl and I've always inserted them manually, but it's always been simple and easy when recording CDs. Not with the Oppo as the player.

 

Ah, now I understand what you're saying..., posted on November 6, 2014 at 11:37:53
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 Yes, most, if not all of the new CD players and transports no longer send out track numbers on their S/PDIF digital outputs. Therefore, when you try to copy a CD to the TASCAM CD-RW700 using a digital connection, the CD-R copy will be one continuous file without track numbers. I fully understand. That is exactly what happened to me when I replace my Audio Alchemy DDS Pro transport with an April Music Stello CDT-100 transport. Furthermore, all my Blu-Ray disc players and DVD players had the same problem. That's when I quit using my TASCAM CD-RW700 to copy CDs.

I began using my Alesis Masterlink for copying CDs and CD-Rs in addition to recording vinyl. However, now I use Exact Audio Copy (EAC) to rip my CDs and CD-Rs to my computer. I no longer deal with hard disc copies anymore. I play all my digital music from either an external USB hard drive or a USB flash drive. It took nearly two months to rip everything I owned, but it is much more convenient now. The only thing I use my new TASCAM DA-3000 for is to make digital copies of vinyl. Then I transfer the files to my computer for mastering and I play them from a USB flash drive in my Oppo BDP-105D.

Best regards,
John Elison

 

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