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Posted on July 8, 2014 at 17:21:35
Ivan303
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 "This complete symphonies and concertos set is a pinnacle of brilliant music-making, and the first major cycle to be recorded in high-definition 24bit 96kHz and Mastered for iTunes sound."

Should I be excited to read this?

Is this a GOOD thing?

Link below:





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RE: Help me understand what I'm reading here...., posted on July 8, 2014 at 21:23:25
Old SteveA
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 Unless the format of this set has been incorrectly identified as being "CD" ( from what I can see on that page) , I don't see these as being any different than the Chandos CDs that were
mastered at "24/96" & then down converted to CD bitrate.

Could these actually be Blu Ray Audio discs mis-labelled as CD ?

 

RE: Help me understand what I'm reading here...., posted on July 8, 2014 at 23:55:54
Roseval
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 Download section say 16/44.1 Flac so CD quality

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Right - and like some of those Chandos CD's from 24/96 masters. . . , posted on July 8, 2014 at 23:56:00
Chris from Lafayette
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 . . . some of this set may become available as 24/96 downloads. (And in fact the Weilerstein performance of the Cello Concerto is already available as a 24/96 download on some sites.)

 

Nothing revolutionary here...., posted on July 9, 2014 at 02:06:25
Russell
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 The way I read that blurb, it just simply says that the master tapes for this new set were done in hi-res (24/96). The CDs will, of course, be standard 16/44.1, and there will be 24/96 downloads available, I assume via the usual channels (HDtracks, ProStudioMasters, etc.). The files available on iTunes will be of the 'Mastered for iTunes' variety (lossy AAC files, but down-converted by Apple directly from the 24/96 files sent to them by the record labels).

Russell

 

RE: "and Mastered for iTunes sound.", posted on July 9, 2014 at 07:36:01
Ivan303
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 I guess the phrase "Mastered for iTunes sound" threw me off a bit. When I think of 'master' I think of the original recording master 'tape', in today's case a digital file.

But somehow I don't see a sound engineer sitting at his board mixing up his master of a recording and wondering how he's gonna get that 'iTunes sound'. ;-)


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RE: Help me understand what I'm reading here...., posted on July 9, 2014 at 16:55:43
bean
 My experience has been that "mastered for iTunes" means that it has been deliberately mastered to 'sound good' on devices and in environments where iTunes is typically used; iPods and iPhones, often in automobiles. Compressed and a casualty of the loudness wars, with little if any dynamic range.

 

I'm listening to the QOBUZ streaming lossless FLAC 16/44.1 version , posted on July 9, 2014 at 17:55:43
Ivan303
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 and it ain't compressed.

But that phrase certainly did catch my eye in a WTF? manner.




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: glad to know , posted on July 9, 2014 at 20:40:01
bean
 that it isn't all compressed. I guess I only heard a few examples, and ran the other way.

I usually only download hi-rez anyway, still buy CD's for 44.1, they're usually cheaper

 

Any non-Supraphon recording of the Czech Phil is exciting., posted on July 10, 2014 at 00:55:59
Daverz
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 Were these recordings made in the Rudolfinum? It's always good to hear what other engineers can do with the orchestra in its hall, where Supraphon recordings could be somewhat blurry.

Years ago, Decca recorded Mackerras with the CzPO, and the results were very fine.

 

RE: Help me understand what I'm reading here...., posted on July 10, 2014 at 06:35:48
jamestavegia@gmail.com
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 If you are buying through ITunes it is still MP3 quality. Find it full format on another site. Or look for discs off Amazon.
Jim Tavegia

 

I see that it's already available for download via Qobuz..., posted on July 11, 2014 at 02:03:31
Russell
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 The 24/96 files are selling for 50.73 euros (about $69)--not bad for 6 discs' worth of music. Of course, being on Decca, it won't be downloadable from Qobuz for those of us in the USA, but it probably won't be too much longer before it's available via North American outlets (HDtracks, ProStudioMasters), hopefully at a comparable price.

Russell

 

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