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Grim future for hi-resolution downloads unless-

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Posted on June 16, 2014 at 20:33:17
ruxtonvet
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 Here is what is needed to change grim to bright: 1. Inexpensive one piece front end to accept hi-resolution downloads that is simple to use with fail proof back up system and large hard drive that does not require a separate computer. $1000. 2. Pricing for software that is similar to e-books - $10 per. 3. Very fast download speeds that are inexpensive to maintain - $10/month. 4. Large availability of software. 5. Sound quality that is superior to vinyl and SACD. Apple and Google get to work.

 

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RE: Grim future for hi-resolution downloads unless-, posted on June 17, 2014 at 03:46:12
chrisc2615
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 I think it is the supply and demand scenario. eBooks have taken off, due to a multiplicity of inexpensive devices to view the books and the ease with which they are available

Hi-Res seems to be a niche market and will never have the following of eBooks
If music be the food of love, play on

 

RE: Grim future for hi-resolution downloads unless-, posted on June 17, 2014 at 11:00:30
AbeCollins
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If implemented correctly you wouldn't even need a local backup solution.

Apple already has a working solution BUT they do not offer hi-resolution music downloads. All they have to do is provide the high-resolution content, the rest is already in place and proven to work.

Examples:

Apple tags all your purchased Movies, Music, Music Videos, Mac Apps, iPhone/iPad Apps, etc. If you lose a local copy it's easy to just retrieve from the iTunes Store or iCloud.

Sony is probably in a position to do the same with their vast music collection but they'll have a learning curve figuring out the IT infrastructure necessary to make it secure and reliable.


 

where's our freaking Sqeezebox Touch replacement?, posted on June 17, 2014 at 13:06:42
mbnx01
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 Nowhere, that's where.

Want music files? Put your PC in your music room.

Not going to happen for many, many people.

It amazes me the music/hi-fi industry wants us to put our music on computers and doesn't seem to give two sh*ts about how we get that music off the computers.





'A lie is halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on'. -Mark Twain

 

RE: where's our freaking Sqeezebox Touch replacement?, posted on June 17, 2014 at 23:22:26
chrisc2615
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 Well, I have a laptop in my living room, feeding a DA converter. It is not too obtrusive

I have toyed with media players (Noontec) but the quality is not too good
If music be the food of love, play on

 

Here, posted on June 18, 2014 at 09:44:45
Daveslater
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 Under 200 bucks including a 32/384 DAC

 

According to Audiophile Audition Sony, posted on June 20, 2014 at 08:18:14
oldmkvi
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 will have a HiRez Download site with their Library.
There is one now, but it only has links to existing sites.
I don't know when it's supposed to happen, but with their File Players, it makes sense. I hope it's soon!

 

The concept itself is already old fashioned, posted on June 22, 2014 at 03:11:06
jbcortes
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 If you go for dematerialized music, what's the point of local storage? It makes no sense.
The only future for this kind of thing is high quality streaming, Netflix style but for music. Qobuz has started doing that but even with Redbook quality, I found FLAC inferior to the equivalent WAV. It'll happen though.
The in-between we have to do with now is already old-fashioned
JB

 

Cloud Storage of all forms is for the Sheeple, posted on June 22, 2014 at 21:09:00
Tony Lauck
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 If you haven't yet been screwed by the cloud, then you will be. Music stored in your home on LPs, optical disks or hard drives are equally "materialized" and are in your physical possession so long as there is no DRM. If "your" music is in the cloud then you are at the mercy of some corporation(s) and you own nothing. If you doubt this, consider the case of Kindle users who purchased a book only to find a few days later that it had been erased from their hardware, because of a copyright "violation". This wouldn't have been terribly noteworthy, had the book not been Orwell's 1984.


There is a serious danger to the use of cloud storage to hold cultural and historical artifacts. The centralization of storage may lead to a 21st century equivalent to the burning of the library at Alexandria. IMO people who believe in cloud storage should wake up, before they become "sheeple", that is to say the 21st century equivalent of serfs.

Tony Lauck

"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar

 

RE: Cloud Storage of all forms is for the Sheeple, posted on June 23, 2014 at 05:41:46
jbcortes
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 Hi Tony,

You might be right on the philosophical side of things.

I'm only using CDs and LPs for critical listening so I'm not too bothered. I like physical media. I do believe in cloud storage as the future but I don't use it because I'm being deliberately old-fashioned and a contrarian (at least where music is concerned).

I'll just add that so far, I've lost more stuff which was hard-drive based than cloud-based!

JB

 

RE: Cloud Storage of all forms is for the Sheeple, posted on June 23, 2014 at 18:44:14
Tony Lauck
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 I have yet to lose any data on hard drives on a computer system that I personally manged. That's because I keep three backups and one of them is a RAID based system. It would take the failure of four separate disk drives for a drive failure to result in data loss. My backup system runs automatically, except that every month I resync with the fourth backup which is kept off-site. My backup system is set up in such a way that it would take multiple independent cases of "cockpit error" before I would accidentally delete my files.

Why am I so paranoid? I started out in computing in 1960 when you were lucky if a computer system worked for an hour or two without a fatal glitch. Multiple backups were essential unless one wanted to give one's boss the equivalent of "the dog at my homework".

If one is lazy one can always trust someone else to do one's own job. One could have trusted Bernie Madoff with one's money... I don't see any of the cloud services as objectively more trusted then Madoff, and that's before considering that one gives up one's Fourth Amendment rights of privacy when one stores one's data in the cloud.


Tony Lauck

"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar

 

RE: Cloud Storage of all forms is for the Sheeple, posted on June 23, 2014 at 19:02:19
Sprezza Tura
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 Triple back ups here..without exception.

Better to be anal than without 7 years worth of digital music collecting, archiving, ripping, and purchasing.

 

RE: Cloud Storage of all forms is for the Sheeple, posted on June 23, 2014 at 23:21:33
jbcortes
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 But you already give all your mails to Google (for example), most people display their whole life on Facebook, Twitter, etc... So I'm with you but I doubt you or I are in the majority.

To be honest, I'm using Netflix and I don't miss owning DVDs. For specific services I think "clouding" can be great. I would not put my passport and personal documents up there but I see no problem streaming Spotify High Rez in 2018 straight into a DAC. You pay a monthly subscription and have access to anything you want. Seems to me the way of the future even though I'll still prefer Redbook and physical media. But I'm not the one who decides here. Super-connected kids will.

 

RE: Here, posted on July 11, 2014 at 12:48:38
cootcraig
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 Do you have experience with this? I just acquired a Cubox-I4-Pro and was planning to install the Rune Audio distro on it. I have been fixated on a Toslink optical cable to an external DAC, but I'm on the look out for other small DIY options.

 

RE: Grim future for hi-resolution downloads unless-, posted on July 11, 2014 at 22:39:36
Disbeliever
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 Best to avoid downloads for Classical music, stick to physical discs no sign of them disappearing in fact more appear every month.To Hell with downloads.

 

RE: Grim future for hi-resolution downloads unless-, posted on July 12, 2014 at 04:40:04
jamestavegia@gmail.com
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 I do download some 2496 content from time to time, but at by AT&T speeds of 12-18mbps DSD is totally out of the question for me. Even a 24/192 files would take some time.

Pretty sad that with my AT&T bundle with UVerse, internet, and phone service at about $200 a month I must live with this. I probably should look into cable. And the to get the MLB Network I have to jump a whole package for $50 and get a bunch of stuff I don't want and will never watch. American commerce.
Jim Tavegia

 

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