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Posted on August 20, 2016 at 02:47:22
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It is 5:30am on a Saturday , I've been listening to Bill Laswell's "Axiom Ambient . Lost in the Translation". Seemingly that is what my post is about, I've been on an upgrade kick for the past year, not changing to much except for the digital front end and my amplifier to get some more grunt from my Gallo Ref 3.5s. The Daphile Linux operating system hooked up to my DAC lets me up sample PCM FLAC files to DSD. It is very interesting, the Aries streamer leaves me in 2016 with a tidal hifi subscription and all the mass market music I could ever want to listen to.

However for the gems of the thousands of recordings I have in my collection, none are available or will ever be available on the streaming services. Now dead record labels, and or musicians who have died and set up Indy contracts or at least had their music pressed to CD or even vinyl, there is so much damn more music out there that these streaming services will never have. There are ways to find out what is good out there, I am not sure that any real lover of art can just deal with only music streaming services.

How much will be lost in this translation to music services? It reminds me of electronic books, just not the same, nor will it ever be.

 

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Good observation...probably lots...//nt, posted on August 20, 2016 at 05:47:27
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 Nt

 

RE: Lost in the translation..., posted on August 20, 2016 at 06:38:37
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 Nice pics- although, I am not sure why you have a fan in the room?

 

RE: Lost in the translation..., posted on August 20, 2016 at 06:54:29
bullethead



I like cigars :) that's why the fan is in there.

 

RE: Lost in the translation..., posted on August 20, 2016 at 07:03:07
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 It's a popularity contest. Mass appeal makes the cut.

 

I believe it is more sinister than that , posted on August 20, 2016 at 07:05:31
bullethead
 I am a pessimist and believe in the future Orwellian nightmare, they will ban albums that are not obedient to the state.

 

Do you really sit That close to the speakers? nt, posted on August 20, 2016 at 07:09:46
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Foothill College Radio Station Motto: "Listen and Obey....!" nt, posted on August 20, 2016 at 07:11:26
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As long as it's not on while listening-, posted on August 20, 2016 at 07:13:59
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 Rotary fans cause lots of Distortion.
Makes a Tenor Sax buzz like a 50's Rock Player.

 

RE: I believe it is more sinister than that , posted on August 20, 2016 at 07:16:54
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 Maybe so...actually, as I was typing that, I was thinking of the number of times I've not been able to find something on Tidal. Not often. I used to think my tastes extended beyond the average.

 

RE: I believe it is more sinister than that , posted on August 20, 2016 at 07:26:06
bullethead
 Seems every other album I listen to is not on Tidal.

For example, got Coil "Time Machines" on now :)

 

RE: I believe it is more sinister than that , posted on August 20, 2016 at 07:34:53
rrob
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 whilst I listen to Rita Coolidge's 2nd lp.

Tidal does have Coil but not 'Time Machines"

 

RE: I believe it is more sinister than that , posted on August 20, 2016 at 08:03:23
Tweaker456
 Future Orwellian nightmare?

 

My approach, posted on August 20, 2016 at 09:06:42
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 is to take a short break outside. Smoke attaches to everything. :)

 

You need the material..., posted on August 20, 2016 at 10:02:48
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 still lots of fantastic stuff in the groove of an old, old 78 record that never made it past that
technical point, that will never be streamed, that never attached itself to a piece of tape or a
shiny disc.

I'm buying used CDs like crazy (or as crazy as my modest budget allows) - music that may or
may not make it to streaming but music that can still be enjoyed and appreciated and purchased cheap,
cheap, cheap

Never sold my LPs in the previous translation and will not sell my CDs in this one.

Screw "convenience".
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

Well said, posted on August 20, 2016 at 12:16:41
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 In the LP "translation," I sold my record collection off to a Russian businessman--who, truth be told, paid handsomely, so I didn't regret it TOO much--but I'm not repeating that action with my CDs in this newest translation. Let them stream--I'm getting pretty decent sound with CD and SACD. Good enough for me.

Man, am I getting crotchety in my old age!




This is a public service announcement . . . WITH GUITARS!!!

 

Same for me---NT, posted on August 20, 2016 at 13:17:56
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 NT

 

RE: Lost in the translation..., posted on August 20, 2016 at 20:17:22
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 great set up bh!









 

That's why I'm still working on getting the best out of red book and vinyl., posted on August 21, 2016 at 06:59:37
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 It's relative to the beholder and more important for me, budget driven.

No DVD Audio, SACD, Hi-Res, etc.

Reminds me when I touch up old photos. Do they really mean that much more when they are sharpened up?

Pick your battles. Enjoy the victories. Respect the efforts where no greater outcome is available.

By the time everything is available to stream, something new will come out again. We're just in the middle of it, not the end.

Fortunately "a cigar is just a cigar". Albeit a very good one I'm sure. And would you even ask for flavor of the month as you enjoy the ones you have.

Yes, I see your point, but don't let it stop you from enjoying the music, whatever format is available.

Cheers!




"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."




 

"Screw "convenience", posted on August 21, 2016 at 09:02:52
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 Why not enjoy both? I've just begun to enjoy ripping some of my vinyl to 24/96 that is unavailable in digital formats - or at least in the same version.

Cost doesn't have to be that great. I purchased an HRT LineStreamer from Azon and use free Audacity software.

I am planning to enjoy being able to hear all my music across multiple systems. :)

 

every transition, posted on August 21, 2016 at 09:59:54
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 something is lost and gained in every transition of formats, I think. Since I refuse to get into digital downloads, I am missing out on some new music that is only released that way. And, as you point out, any new medium will not recapture all that has gone before.

 

^^^^^ what he said. ditto. nt, posted on August 21, 2016 at 10:17:02
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I refuse to get into digital downloads- and that is because...? nt, posted on August 21, 2016 at 10:33:22
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RE: I refuse to get into digital downloads- and that is because...? nt, posted on August 21, 2016 at 11:28:02
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 I just don't feel like going through those motions. I made the transition from vinyl to CDs, and some SACDs. Still can play all of those formats. I just don't want the extra hassle of digital downloads, let alone the costs involved.

I also prefer actual books to digital books. In short: I'm old. :)

 

RE: Lost in the translation..., posted on August 22, 2016 at 13:41:35
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 If you change the zafu and zabutan to red will give you a bigger soundstage!

 

:), posted on August 22, 2016 at 15:03:08
bullethead
 At least someone knows what that is. I occasionally astral travel using that as the launchpad :)

 

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