Ya think they'll be talkin' bout him in 50 years?

RE: Ya think they'll be talkin' bout him in 50 years?, posted on November 25, 2015 at 06:12:15
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15519 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	Laughing... a sad state of affairs, indeed!

RE: Ya think they'll be talkin' bout him in 50 years?, posted on November 25, 2015 at 08:20:07
geezerrocket	That young girl looks like the one I saw starring in a tampon commercial........ Compare that "little girl" with Jim, Robert, Roger, or the Boss. Pretty damm sad......

Of course they will be. But we will never know it, posted on November 25, 2015 at 08:26:02

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In fifty years the kids buying his music will be us now. You mock him just like our parents mocked most of the people you pictured. After all fifty years ago rock and roll was the devil's music and it was just noise to our parents. The more things change the more they stay the same. In 50 years he will be very much talked about and we won't know it because we will be dead.

Of course much like some of the people you pictured....he will likely be long dead too. When does he turn 27?

As far as I am concerned, the most meaningful and impressive Billboard achievement OF ALL TIME, posted on November 25, 2015 at 08:57:01
John Marks Manufacturer Posts: 7806 Location: Peoples' Democratic Republic of R.I. Joined: April 23, 2000	As far as I am concerned, the most meaningful and impressive Billboard achievement OF ALL TIME belongs to: Mickey Newbury-still (as far as I know), the only songwriter ever to have songs in the Top 10 on four different Billboard charts at the same time (three #1s and one #5). JM

RE: Of course they will be. But we will never know it, posted on November 25, 2015 at 08:57:34
BCR Audiophile Posts: 2446 Location: connecticut Joined: April 7, 2009	Your point is well taken. I was not the one that who pictured those others. I was talking about the Beatles longevity after 50 years!

RE: Of course they will be. But we will never know it, posted on November 25, 2015 at 09:14:51
Analog Scott Audiophile Posts: 9933 Joined: January 8, 2002	Beatles are pretty unique. JB is not the second coming of The Beatles for sure.

that pic above Bruce..., posted on November 25, 2015 at 09:18:10
dirtyvinyl	I didn't know Charles Atlas sang Baba O'Reily? Roger Daltrey looks like a Greek God!

Never heard of him...(nt), posted on November 25, 2015 at 09:44:53
mkuller Audiophile Posts: 38130 Location: SF Bay Area Joined: April 22, 2003	(nt)

Some years ago..., posted on November 25, 2015 at 09:49:28

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...maybe about 10 years ago when she was 15, I took my daughter to see Steve Winwood.

He played "Gimme Some Lovin'" which was 40 years old.

I also took her to see Paul McCartney who played some of her Beatles' favorites.

She loves music an I asked her if any of the groups she listens to would be around 40 years from now.

She said it wasn't likely since the groups don't last more than a couple of years.

Beiber? I had already forgotten he was a singer and not just a famous jerk until the new album came out.

RE: As far as I am concerned, the most meaningful and impressive Billboard achievement OF ALL TIME, posted on November 25, 2015 at 09:50:04

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I can't argue with statistics. But I still think this tops 'em all!

http://www.billboard.com/articles/chartbeat/513480/april-4-1

How about one album remaining on the charts for 31 years?, posted on November 25, 2015 at 10:10:06

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Snippet: As of 2008, Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon has been on the charts for over 1,630 weeks, or approximately 31 years. Consecutively, the album spent a record 773 weeks on the Billboard 200. The other weeks were spent on the Top Pop Catalog Albums chart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_200#Most_weeks_on_th

RE: Some years ago..., posted on November 25, 2015 at 10:11:43
BCR Audiophile Posts: 2446 Location: connecticut Joined: April 7, 2009	IMHO,no group or person has left their mark on pop music like the Beatles!

American Trilogy still gives me goosebumps. , posted on November 25, 2015 at 10:12:58**
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Is he being AutoTuned?, posted on November 25, 2015 at 11:16:48
jedrider Audiophile Posts: 15167 Location: No. California Joined: December 26, 2003	Sure sounds that way to me. How could anyone listen to that stuff, beats me. I like pop music, but not auto-tuned pop.

Well, after 50 years we still remember Ensign Pulver, don't we?, posted on November 25, 2015 at 11:24:03

genungo

At least, I do.

Ensign Pulver

Someone will..., posted on November 25, 2015 at 11:25:06
musetap Audiophile Posts: 31878 Location: San Francisco Joined: July 8, 2003 Contributor Since: January 28, 2004	likely nobody here though. I'm surprised anyone here is talkin' 'bout him now, including me. "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure

Sure. The same way we talk about Donny Osmond. nt, posted on November 25, 2015 at 11:27:03
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RE: Is he being AutoTuned?, posted on November 25, 2015 at 11:43:45

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I hate auto tune too but it is in fashion. I remember my parents hearing my Led Zeppelin records back in the 70s and saying "That is just noise." "He is just screaming! Anyone can do that!" "That crap isn't music, it's just a fad. It will be long forgotten years from now."

This sure does seem like the same thing all over again.

Nope, I don't like JB. Not one bit. But I am not going the route of my parents and dismiss him out of hand. Clearly he is speaking to a large body of music fans in a way that other artists are not. What it is I know not, but there has to be something there. And anyone who gains this much popularity for such an extended time will be remembered by the generation of fans that put him where he is now.

That's a good one, posted on November 25, 2015 at 11:44:53
Analog Scott Audiophile Posts: 9933 Joined: January 8, 2002	I would have to go with that one too as the most amazing bill board achievement.

Auto-tuning is more about a lack of vocal talent than a..., posted on November 25, 2015 at 12:27:19
hcman Audiophile Posts: 6362 Location: S.E.Washington Joined: February 5, 2005	musical direction for me.

It's apples and oranges., posted on November 25, 2015 at 12:34:45
hcman Audiophile Posts: 6362 Location: S.E.Washington Joined: February 5, 2005	It's the difference between a few buttons on a phone and going to the store and buying a physical copy of a single. No band could ever issue singles of an entire album in the physical medium era. That's what was quaintly referred to as an album.

I sure someone once said that the Beatles would never last. nt, posted on November 25, 2015 at 13:15:57
dancingseamonkey Audiophile Posts: 3455 Location: New Orleans, birth place of jazz. Joined: May 1, 2006 Contributor Since: November 24, 2009	nt "Trying is the first step towards failure." Homer Simpson

why do we talk about him ever? ;^) nt, posted on November 25, 2015 at 13:36:35
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Obviously, it inspired Canadian Railroad Trilogy nt, posted on November 25, 2015 at 13:55:01
John Marks Manufacturer Posts: 7806 Location: Peoples' Democratic Republic of R.I. Joined: April 23, 2000	nt

Hugely influential upon Gordon Lightfoot, Kris Kristofferson, Waylon Jennings, and Townes van Zandt (YT), posted on November 25, 2015 at 14:01:06

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Newbury wrote many songs that would be recorded by singers and songwriters such as Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Bill Monroe, Johnny Rodriguez, Hank Snow, Ray Charles, Tony Rice, Jerry Lee Lewis, Tammy Wynette, Ray Price, Don Gibson, Brenda Lee, Charlie Rich, Lynn Anderson, David Allan Coe, Sammi Smith, Joan Baez, Tom Jones, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, John Denver, Kenny Rogers, Steve Von Till, B.B. King, Linda Ronstadt, Dax Riggs, Bobby "Blue" Bland, and Bill Callahan among many others.

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ATB,

JM

Agree...(nt), posted on November 25, 2015 at 14:05:07
mkuller Audiophile Posts: 38130 Location: SF Bay Area Joined: April 22, 2003	(nt)

Yeah, someone did. Them! (youtube video), posted on November 25, 2015 at 14:09:05

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RE: Auto-tuning is more about a lack of vocal talent than a..., posted on November 25, 2015 at 14:52:32
Analog Scott Audiophile Posts: 9933 Joined: January 8, 2002	but it is a popular "sound" in pop music today so one cant say for sure that the use is due to the singer's inability to sing in tune

*Hey, Tiny Tim gets mentioned on occasion. How is ths guy different? , posted on November 25, 2015 at 16:31:48**
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If I'm alive 50 years from now, posted on November 25, 2015 at 19:36:20
RGA Reviewer Posts: 15177 Location: Hong Kong Joined: August 8, 2001	and I can remember to put my pants on - I'll be thrilled.

In 50 years, it's going to be very dark..., posted on November 26, 2015 at 08:45:15
Mr. Dick Hertz	...and quiet for me.

RE: Ya think they'll be talkin' bout him in 50 years?, posted on November 26, 2015 at 09:57:52
A.Wayne Audiophile Posts: 2527 Location: Front row center Joined: November 30, 2011	One Thing they all have in common, none can actually sing ...

RE: Ya think they'll be talkin' bout him in 50 years?, posted on November 26, 2015 at 14:46:32
IEaudiodude Audiophile Posts: 2814 Location: So Cal Joined: February 11, 2010	My daughter and her friends already stopped listening to him and talking about him when he started acting like a dick...... So my guess would be No :^)

RE: Is he being AutoTuned?, posted on November 26, 2015 at 21:51:27

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Over 90 percent of the pop music put out over the past five years has been Auto-Tuned..... Bieber is just one of many.........

It has gotten to the point where it's difficult to find pop music in recent time that is NOT Auto-Tuned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjIteMfDOo4

It's the Producers/Engineers Too....., posted on November 26, 2015 at 22:00:43

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The alarm bells went off several years ago when I started encountering Frank Sinatra and other classic singers with Auto-Tune applied on remastered releases......

I've brought this up recently in another post. Read it and weep......

http://db.audioasylum.com/mhtml/m.html?forum=digital&n=17922

RE: Auto-tuning is more about a lack of vocal talent than a..., posted on November 26, 2015 at 22:02:28
Todd Krieger Audiophile Posts: 37333 Location: SW United States Joined: November 2, 2000	"but it is a popular 'sound' in pop music today" It's a sad truth..... Performers and producers do it because everybody else does it...... The whole industry has become a fiefdom of sheep.

RE: Yeah, someone did. Them! (youtube video), posted on November 26, 2015 at 22:08:40
Todd Krieger Audiophile Posts: 37333 Location: SW United States Joined: November 2, 2000	In any endeavor, the one thing that destroys more performers from sustained success is the expectation or planning of it. If you just do your thing, and you're actually good, the success will take care of itself.

The proof of Bieber's longevity..., posted on November 27, 2015 at 10:35:20

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...would be if I ever heard any of his music played like Muzak-on hold on a phone, or in an elevator-And then guiltily hummed the tune over and over in my head. It's more than just a quantifiable projection. Great pop seems to reinvent itself in other places. As of yet, i haven't heard his music anywhere, except maybe to sell musical widgets on network tv. Apologies if I've merely parroted any already posted responses.

The guy isn't even 22 yet., posted on November 28, 2015 at 22:28:22
MannyE Audiophile Posts: 2088 Location: Miami Beach Joined: March 4, 2001	He just turned 21. Who knows what he's going to do? In 30 years he's only going to be 51. A lot can happen. If I'm not mistaken he's got talent and a decent singing voice. Will he decide to hone that talent or will he "Different Stokes" himself? Time will tell.

RE: As far as I am concerned, the most meaningful and impressive Billboard achievement OF ALL TIME, posted on December 4, 2015 at 12:45:03
Jack D II Audiophile Posts: 1535 Location: Hot Springs, AR Joined: June 17, 2009	John, what were the songs Newbury wrote?

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