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Just finished a review of the Crosley C10

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Posted on September 1, 2015 at 20:09:49
Bromo33333
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 Not a bad effort. Made in the same factory as ProJect and Music Hall. Expected $300 street price.
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finally..............., posted on September 1, 2015 at 20:13:32
hifitommy
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 a decent product with THAT name on it.
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RE: Just finished a review of the Crosley C10, posted on September 2, 2015 at 07:40:30
Poinzy
 Once upon a time, something like this would have been put on a bench and really tested. Now people just spin a few records, and that's the review.

If this Crosley unit bears any resemblance the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, I'd avoid it like the plague.

 

I think his point is that "Crosley" name being placed on something that is not cheap plastic garbage (nt), posted on September 2, 2015 at 08:31:00
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RE: I think his point is that "Crosley" name being placed on something that is not cheap plastic garbage (nt), posted on September 2, 2015 at 08:38:05
Poinzy
 A good-quality turntable for $300? Color me unconvinced.

 

RE: Just finished a review of the Crosley C10, posted on September 2, 2015 at 10:02:34
AudioSoul
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So why even bother? It's not a Crosley turntable is a Pro-Ject/Music Hall turntable. So it's going to sound the same as their equivalent models...

 

RE: Just finished a review of the Crosley C10, posted on September 2, 2015 at 10:05:04
AudioSoul
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If I was the reviewer I would be embarrassed to even say I am reviewing a Crosley turntable when it is not. Audio reviewing has sunk to a new low......

 

Have you any idea of what we are talking about?, posted on September 2, 2015 at 10:49:47
Chip647
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Plastic dimestore garbage.

No, a $300 turntable is not going to be very good, but it is not Fisher Price toys.

 

RE: Have you any idea of what we are talking about?, posted on September 2, 2015 at 10:52:22
Poinzy
 I've been using turntables for more than 40 years. Yes, I'm familiar with Crosley's products. I'm also familiar with the stuff Pro-Ject churns out. Calm down.

 

Indeed. (nt), posted on September 2, 2015 at 11:37:13
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Don't knock it 'till you try it., posted on September 2, 2015 at 11:39:36
Bromo33333
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 It's a lot better than it has a right to be given the expected price of 3 Benjamins.


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Here's one, posted on September 2, 2015 at 12:26:28
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 Oops it is from the 1980s.
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RE: Here's one, posted on September 2, 2015 at 12:55:49
Poinzy
 Ahhh, back in the days when they didn't assemble turntables with a single phillips-head screwdriver.

These modern, entry-level belt-drive turntables are pieces of crap, for extremely casual listening, at best.

 

RE: Here's one, posted on September 2, 2015 at 15:48:11
raya
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 If it gets someone who would have bought a the cheaper Crosley to buy this then I would say it is a winner. Everyone starts somewhere. My first table was a Pioneer PL512 when it came out. It came with an Empire 2000 cartridge. That with my home brewed speakers and Tandy (Rat Shack) err Pioneer, integrated amp set me on my way. This product could very well do the same for someone else.

Of course we are not their target market but my son, who is 10, or an older teenager, just might be. And the more the young are exposed to decent products the better off this industry will be.

These will be stocked at BN, where this market can grab one. They can't grab anything else, as the days of stereo shops are long fading. They are not going to travel 100-250 miles to have a listening session. That is a long bike ride for them.

So, relax and be thankful.

I say, nice job, Crosley!!!!!!!!!

 

RE: Here's one, posted on September 2, 2015 at 16:22:40
Poinzy
 "And the more the young are exposed to decent products the better off this industry will be."

The problem is, this isn't a decent product. If it's built in the same factory as Project Debut Carbons, but for $100 less, it's probably using 5-year-old cast-off technology from Pro-Ject, rebadged for Crosley. Even new technology from Pro-Ject is no great shakes. I can only imagine what this Crosley thing is like.

A kid would be better off either with an iPod, or saving his money for a better turntable. They don't do serious tests on these entry-level belt-drives because they're pieces of junk. They're aimed at people who get carried away at the idea of owning a turntable, but are completely clueless about the technology.

"Is hum normal?" "Can I back-cue with this turntable?"

$300 would buy a lot of CD's or downloadable songs. I can't believe the gullibility of some of the people in the audio market, I really can't.

 

RE: Here's one, posted on September 2, 2015 at 17:27:08
raya
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 What $300, new table with cartridge do you recommend? The ProJect Carbon generally gets good reviews. I've never heard one but yours is the first that I have read that says it is junk.

 

RE: Here's one, posted on September 2, 2015 at 17:56:47
Byrd69
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 Not everyone has the budget to buy YOUR turntable of choice. Not everyone would buy YOUR turntable of choice, even if they had the money. Different people, different priorities, different budgets....different ears.

It's not junk unless you tested it yourself. And then your opinion is just that....an opinion.




Your interest may vary but the results will be same. (Byrd 2020)

I can't compete with the dead. (Buck W. 2010)

Cowards can't be heroes. (Byrd 2017)

Why don't catfish have kittens? (Moe Howard 1937)

 

Funny how time can be good for a product's reputation ..., posted on September 2, 2015 at 18:06:54
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 Back in the day, that Dual was thought of as a flimsy piece of junk wrapped in ten bucks worth of wood trim.

Today, among a plethora of crap tables, the Dual looks good.

Time has a way of changing perception.

Dean.






reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.


 

It looks nice, posted on September 2, 2015 at 19:03:55
jedrider
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 It looks like a Pro-ject turntable with veneered plinth. Will the veneer stand up over time? Even the Rega RP-1 appears to be using plastic on their tonearm. So, for $300, probably OK. A used turntable would be a better deal, though.

 

Furthermore..., posted on September 3, 2015 at 09:11:45
tketcham
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 Hi, Byrd69,
His profile page may explain his recurring disgust for most anything vinyl...

"A digital guy now, I merely tolerate vinyl and own some old gear."

At least he doesn't offer unsolicited advice. '-)

Regards,
Tom

 

RE: Here's one, posted on September 3, 2015 at 10:00:21
mace
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 So when did you hear this Crosley? And by the way, what Pro-ject models do you have experience with?


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Yea, there's been sooooooo many technical advances in entry level tables in the last 5 years, posted on September 3, 2015 at 12:20:35
Road Warrior
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 not.

Looks like a nice starter rig light years ahead of what Crosley and their ilk have previously been offering.
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a used thorens 145 should bury it [n.t.a.], posted on September 3, 2015 at 23:38:07
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