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Pioneer Exits Audio

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Posted on March 22, 2015 at 07:39:05
fstein
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 They made great TVs, out. Great budget speakers, TAD, out. Their 60's and 70s receivers are being bid through the roof. They out JBL'd JBL with apremium line of speakers in the 70's. (If you haven't owned a set of HPM100's, you should)>
But it's OK - anything they can do for $300 some guy can do in his garage, slap on a 1/4' lasercut front and charge $10,000.

 

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RE: Pioneer Exits Audio, posted on March 22, 2015 at 07:48:06
Audioquest4life
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 Not sure I get your point. What is the main idea you are trying to get across? You make some statements that Pioneer made some great products in the past, and then make assertions that others can make products for less money. I am trying to male a correlation in what you are attempting to say her. From the title "Pioneer Exits Audio" it would elicit thoughts from others to believe that the theme is that Pioneer is not manufacturing audio products any more. Sorry, just don't the point or meaning in your post and its relevancy to Pioneer.

 

RE: Pioneer Exits Audio, posted on March 22, 2015 at 08:23:45
jedrider
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 Pioneer made great receivers when I was going to college that I still see for sale. Good design. They will be missed.

 

RE: Pioneer Exits Audio, posted on March 22, 2015 at 08:34:56
rick_m
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 "But it's OK - anything they can do for $300 some guy can do in his garage, slap on a 1/4' lasercut front and charge $10,000."

Sweet! But I thought the panels were CNC milled...

Rick

 

Pioneer Exits Audio?, posted on March 22, 2015 at 08:35:10
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 fstein, do you mean ending production of audio products? If so, where did you see this?

It seems odd to me they would introduce a new turntable if they were exiting the audio market.

"The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made." Groucho

 

From September 2014:, posted on March 22, 2015 at 09:25:34
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 "Last week we heard the news of the sale of Pioneer's AV business to Onkyo
and now, as widely expected, the Japanese company has announced plans to
also sell its DJ products business.

Pioneer's DJ range, which includes turntables, mixers and studio monitors,
will be renamed Pioneer DJ and sold to private equity firm KKR & Co LP
for around 59 billion yen ($550 million)."

If you aren't quite noticing or accepting what is really going on in the present,
but are responding based on your thoughts or feelings about what ought to be,
then you are apt to collide with what is really going on.

 

RE: The glory days of Pioneer was over years ago!, posted on March 22, 2015 at 11:35:41
BCR
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RE: From September 2014:, posted on March 22, 2015 at 11:45:49
skriefal
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 IIRC, Pioneer sold a portion of the stake in their A/V division to Onkyo. Which effectively just means that they got a cash infusion from Onkyo, with Onkyo now owning Pioneer stock. Or something like that. It doesn't mean that we won't continue to see Pioneer A/V equipment.

 

Second hand news, posted on March 22, 2015 at 11:47:32
BubbaMike
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 This was announced last September. They sold their audio business to Onyko and their DJ equipment to KKR. Just second hand news here. Note the date.




When they discover the center of the universe, a lot of people will be disappointed to discover they are not it. ~ Bernard Bailey

 

RE: Pioneer Exits Audio, posted on March 22, 2015 at 14:27:15
fantja
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 Again?
I concur, they made the best plasma out there...

 

Heh, posted on March 22, 2015 at 15:17:49
Bromo33333
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 They sold the division to Onkyo. So it actually lives on.

But aside from TAD, Pioneer really wasn't an audio player anymore - certainly not in the high end space, and not where they were positioned in the 1970's which was their heyday.

COmpanies buy and sell divisions all the time. Some grow and some shrink. Such is life.

Lots of room for smaller companies to jump the fray, too. But they don't provide competition for the big boys when they get serious about it. But the volumes one must operate at in order ot be profitable are lower than they every have been - and it is possible to do a lot with fewer employees than ever. Whether this is good or bad really depends upon how you are positioned. I've found the people that are the most negative are the ones negatively affected by changes in the economy. Hope that's not you.
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"You are precisely as big as what you love and precisely as small as what you allow to annoy you." ~ R A Wilson

 

RE: Heh, posted on March 22, 2015 at 16:27:52
Jack D II
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 I avoid anything Pioneer. They refused to service one of their products some time ago that needed something minor. The three things I require of a any product is quality sound reproduction, carefree ownership, and when service is needed, it must be available, reasonable and fast.

 

RE: Pioneer Exits Audio, posted on March 22, 2015 at 18:51:21
Picklesnapper
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 I must take issue with the statement about HPM 100s. I owned a pair and gave them to Tom at The Gifted Listener. He gave them to his daughter after reconing them. They were alright but are nowhere near as good as my present speakers Vienna Acoustics "Strauss". I don't miss them at all.

The TAD speakers on the other hand are what I will buy if I ever win the lottery. As soon as I heard them I knew they were the speakers I have been looking for for decades.

 

RE: Pioneer Exits Audio, posted on March 23, 2015 at 08:55:28
Inmate51
 Finally.

AND, the Sun came out today - finally!

I'm already in a better mood.

:)

 

RE: Pioneer Exits Audio, posted on March 23, 2015 at 20:10:00
Bill the K
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 That famous Budget speaker will become a collector's item.

Bill

 

RE: Pioneer Exits Audio, posted on March 24, 2015 at 03:22:17
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 Pioneer receivers will not be missed by me despite Air Studios tuning , Sony AVrs are far superior they do not use Class D to which I am allergic.

 

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