It's just hipsterism - Presto 11:40:19 02/24/15 (2)
 Pretty hip summation... - musetap 22:46:52 02/24/15 (1)
 Many have tried and failed... - Presto 10:43:35 02/27/15 (0)

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 It's just hipsterism - Presto 11:40:19 02/24/15 (2)
 Pretty hip summation... - musetap 22:46:52 02/24/15 (1)
 Many have tried and failed... - Presto 10:43:35 02/27/15 (0)
 "It sounds better" - Sounds better than what? - Goober58 11:13:27 02/22/15 (3)
 RE: "It sounds better" - Sounds better than what? - Todd Krieger 16:00:38 02/22/15 (2)
 Because I don't agree with them - Goober58 15:29:14 02/23/15 (1)
 RE: Because I don't agree with them - Todd Krieger 10:49:42 02/24/15 (0)
 RE: On the Gourmet Food Show on KFYI 550 Phoenix..... - fantja 10:19:00 02/22/15 (0)
 at the risk of getting hated on - bullethead 18:00:14 02/21/15 (7)
 Listening to my digital transfer of Styx's Canadian A&M vinyl of The Grand Illusion and LMAO.... - Goober58 09:17:05 02/22/15 (1)
 RE: Listening to my digital transfer of Styx's Canadian A&M vinyl of The Grand Illusion and LMAO.... - Todd Krieger 15:58:05 02/22/15 (0)
 RE: at the risk of getting hated on - middleground 03:47:09 02/22/15 (0)
 I'm with ya on that, BH!! - rlw 18:14:45 02/21/15 (3)
 RE: I'm with ya on that, BH!! - Todd Krieger 02:21:32 02/22/15 (2)
 nice, my take on the depersonalization of music nowadys - bullethead 04:20:46 02/22/15 (1)
 Not here! - jusbe 12:55:43 02/22/15 (0)

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I agree, but more for flexibility than for "best sound".... I try to get the best sound from each format.

But if I don't like the sound of a particular format, I know I won't use it, so I'm not inclusive in that regard. Why pay the extra money?

People have asked me why I don't have "high rez" digital source as one of those formats.... I answer that I just don't like how it sounds, it just gets in the way of my music enjoyment. (I've read good things about new DSD DACs.... I might jump into that eventually.)

"In fact comparing apples to apples if a TT always sounds better something isn't right with the system."

Disagree.... To me, a TT sounds better the vast majority of the time because active digitized audio contains artifacts I believe breach the fragility of the music. (RFI being the main culprit. I notice this degradation not just from digital sources, but also switching power supplies.) I happen to like CD over high-rez for I think the same reason- High-rez digital audio processing generates more RFI than lower resolutions. (More bit switching per unit time.)

"Yea of course someone might like it that way - it would be nice they understood that instead of generalizing the state of audio."

I do believe digitization has desensitized the masses with their music.... The appreciation of great music has declined to alarming levels, in my humble opinion. (Note that it's a belief of mine. What's actually taking place could be something totally different. It has been a suspicion of mine since the early 1990s.)

"I remember back in my early days it wasn't unusual to find systems where the best sounding source actually was the radio!"

Don't ever recall that.... I've never recalled anyone claim their best sounding source was an FM tuner, cassette deck, or 8-track tape player...... Or claim any of those sources sounded better than vinyl. Prior to CD, vinyl and open reel tape were king.

"Stuff like this is one of the first indicators that something is wrong with the system."

Possibly.... I've had people come into my house and claim their Bose system sounds better.... I guess I like what I like.

"Give me rhythm or give me death!"

We're losing our liberty..... I'll just settle for that.

Pioneer beards. Thick round retro glasses. Lenses not required. Music: has to be indie and recommended on Pitchfork. After 48 hours it's not cool anymore. Clothes: Cute combination of "I'm homeless" with a few "You can't afford this" accessories to ensure you are aware they come from prosperous families.

And that's just the wrapping of the hipster culture. The tip of the hipster iceberg. There's a long list of social causes, liberal arts courses, language, expressions, coffee shop etiquette... even self-imposed anorexic emaciation.

It's a bloody full time job being a hipster and that's a good thing, since REAL hipsters don't have REAL jobs anyways. They are all *inspiring* to be something in the music, art or entertainment industries. Well, the REAL ORIGINAL hipsters don't have conventional jobs anyways. Most people identifying as hipsters these days are not from the correct cities, districts, families, schools and (ahem) cultures to be a hipster anyways. You can't have hipsters born in middle-America prairie towns to American Gothic's 'Martha and Joe. It just doesn't work that way.

You can't put on silly tight jeans, strange glasses and grow a beard, crack a can of Pabst and head downtown on your grand dad's bike and "be" a hipster. And, IRONICALLY, the harder you try to BE a hipster the more you are NOT a hipster at all, despite being ironic in your failed attempt.

At being a hipster.

Cheers,
Presto

"Isn't this a great concert?"
"Meh, it's okay."
"What's wrong?"
"I was a *real* fan, like, before they were totally mainstream."

To admit to being part of a subculture, they are then just a subset of ALL THE OTHER YOUNG ADULTS trying to be a member of a social group with specific attributes, thus not making them in any way special. All the OTHER kids are flocking to groups, but these kids are most certainly NOT. Because that would not be cool. At all. To be in a group. So, the refuse to be labelled, although they follow all of the same social conventions, fashion sensibilities, and mannerisms that are specific to a group culture, despite them denying this affiliation vehemently. Perhaps they feel they are non-members of all groups, because to do so would be lame.

So, they're a group of people who refuse to be labelled as being in a group - they're above all that, you see. Sooooo sophisticated.

I'm sure they'll love the irony of that too! ;)

I do find the copy-cat groups of hipsters to be annoying though, and I'm not even remotely close to being a hipster. I'm a largely disgruntled divorced Gen X guy going to work in dockers pants and being a part-time single dad.

I'm invisible to anyone under 30.

Unless I'm waving my cane at them... to get them off my lawn. :P

Cheers,
Presto