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Best Buy finally gone Hi End...

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Posted on December 1, 2014 at 19:46:02
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Magnolia section now has McIntosh, B&W 801, Sonus Faber, plus a few nice TTs. Nice to see, hope they add a few more affordable brands.
The Mac 275 amp has all tubes glowing green, is that a Mac special issue, or just for display ? I couldn't get any ones attention to ask.

AB.

 

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Green is normal! nt, posted on December 1, 2014 at 21:55:00
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RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 03:39:36
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I read they are adding SVS too.

 

McIntosh and Sonus Faber are owned by the same company now., posted on December 2, 2014 at 06:35:38
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Fine Sounds.

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RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 07:07:05
Don't forget about Martin Logan.




 

McIntosh is high end?, posted on December 2, 2014 at 08:35:46
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I thought is was just high dollar ...

Lack of skill dictates economy of style. - Joey Ramone

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 09:30:37
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It wont do them any good if they dont pay attention to their potential customers.

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 09:37:45
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Magnolia is still around? I saw Krell there many years ago but Best Buy is kind of a sleezy operation IMHO. Be sure to carefully understand their return policy.

Ever see teenage 'boy racer' types with their compact rice powered hatchbacks with glowing light strips underneath and trash can muffler? Vroom vroom!

LEDs glowing under vacuum tubes is a similar concept. They serve no purpose but if you think it looks cool, go for it. ;-)



 

Indeed, why would you want to buy anything high end from Magnolia?, posted on December 2, 2014 at 10:41:58
If I'm going to spend high end money, I want to work with an experienced dealership who knows their stuff and has the facilities for a proper audition and is willing to provide after sale support such as help with setup and facilitating service if necessary.

The Magnolia sections of my local BB stores can't do any of that. Their staff is really inexperienced and they have a lot of turnover, they don't know how to setup speakers properly, don't know much about system building and matching, the listening spaces are not designed for good audio quality and suffer from excessive background noise, they won't do home auditions, and their after sale support consists of selling you a service/protection plan so they can send a "Geek squad" person to your home who has probably never seen an XLR connector before.

I might buy a TV from them, but that's about it.

 

RE: McIntosh is high end?, posted on December 2, 2014 at 10:47:22
I think that Mac gear might be considered both high dollar and high end but, IME, their amps seem to require more careful than usual loudspeaker matching for the best results.

 

Because..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 10:51:05
.., so many of the smaller and better brick n' mortar shops have gone out of business and there is nothing better than Magnolia within 500 miles or more.

 

Best Buy is still around?, posted on December 2, 2014 at 11:27:00
I bought my first computer at Best Buy eons ago and never went back.

I'm surprised Best Buy sells McIntosh as the only Hifi store in town is also a dealer. And I live in a relatively small area. After Lambeau Field was remodeled a few years ago the entire city of Green Bay could fit inside.

Sue

 

Exactly, posted on December 2, 2014 at 11:56:15
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and even if you are not buying, its at least nice to be able to see the live stuff, other that on a website.

 

However you want to rate them.., posted on December 2, 2014 at 12:08:59
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the big mono blocs are sure impressive just to look at. If I had them, I wouldn't care how they sound.

 

Because I like home appliance and cellphone sales people ?, posted on December 2, 2014 at 12:39:36
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Boy Racer, posted on December 2, 2014 at 12:42:39
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An 18 year old drove by in a car a while back with very loud pipes. It was an obvious former mom-mobile but the loud pipes obviously made a difference to him. I smiled.
The woman next to me asked, "Why does it have to be so loud?". I asked her, " Have you ever been an 18 year old boy?" .

She got it.

Richard

 

racer boys, posted on December 2, 2014 at 13:00:58
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You forgot the aftermarket screw-on Spoiler, quote-unquote.

Or as an acquaintance refers to them: "lunchbox handle".

 

RE: Boy Racer, posted on December 2, 2014 at 13:13:09
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Yeah, I admit that I get it too!

I once used clothes pins and playing cards in my bicycle wheel spokes until I got older. And then glass packs for my car exhaust came along. ;-)


 

I think there are only 3 Magnolia stores in Wi..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 13:36:29
Milwaukee, Appleton and within the last year or so one was opened in Madison. I have two sisters-in-law who live in the GB area, one in Howard and the other near the stadium. Whenever we get there to visit I try and find time to wander over to HiFi Heaven and see if Jim is around. I'm sure glad he's been strong enough over the years to keep the doors open.

 

A place for the common folks to go, posted on December 2, 2014 at 14:55:50
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who have some money to spend. I wish them luck. Yes, a pretty piss poor place to get an audition.

They were auditioning some equipment to a budding audiophile, or mostly someone with money to spend -- they are often young around this town. It was bleeding my ears off, so I had to leave the room.

 

RE: McIntosh is high end?, posted on December 2, 2014 at 15:05:05
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McIntosh makes great gear, musical sounding and their amps are 2nd to none. With the autotransformers that can match any speaker design including electrostatics.
PJB

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 15:21:59
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OUr Best Buy has a Magnolia section, but doesn't have any of those things on display. Must be market by market ....

Anyway - it's all good for boutique audio!
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"You are precisely as big as what you love and precisely as small as what you allow to annoy you." ~ R A Wilson

 

Magnolia in Palo Alto, posted on December 2, 2014 at 16:01:18
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now closed but when it was open it simply all Magnolia. Not a Best Buy artifact in sight. The staff was knowledgeable, the equipment offered was very good, the rooms had good sound and seating (I sold them the listening chairs, so I know it was good). It was a very large store and I did buy a few things from them.
It may have been an experiment on how a only Magnolia store would work in a high tech town....
They had McIntosh gear, set up properly. Home trials? Yep, you bet.

 

My McIntosh amp, posted on December 2, 2014 at 16:03:55
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was an utter failure at driving my Apogee Scintilla speakers. It did not have anywhere near enough current to manage the 1/2 ohm that the speaker would drop to at certain frequencies.

 

RE: Magnolia in Palo Alto, posted on December 2, 2014 at 16:18:11
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That's interesting. The only Magnolia stores I've been to were in corner enclaves within a Best Buy store but not completely enclosed or partitioned off. Foot traffic and ambient noise from the main section of the store was fully audible in the 'high-end' audio section. Not a good setup but this wasn't Palo Alto or Atherton. ;-)





 

RE: McIntosh is high end?, posted on December 2, 2014 at 16:26:58
For some reason, the Big Mac amp that used to be here at my local hifi shop had trouble driving their large KEF floorstanders. A much smaller and cheaper Marantz amp they in stock had no problems driving the very same speakers.

I'm not saying that the Mac amp was not great sounding (with the proper speakers), well built, and cool looking. I would have loved to have owned that amp. It's just that, autoformers or no, it couldn't drive certain speaker loads very well...

 

Wrong Tap, or not enough power?- what model was it? nt , posted on December 2, 2014 at 16:31:57
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Ha!, posted on December 2, 2014 at 16:40:18
I know GB.

:)

 

RE: Wrong Tap, or not enough power?- what model was it? nt , posted on December 2, 2014 at 16:59:06
This was a few years ago, but if I remember correctly it was the MC-302 stereo amp w/ 300 watts per channel. I am not certain which taps were used but I was under the impression that they had tried everything, to no avail.

 

RE: My McIntosh amp, posted on December 2, 2014 at 17:28:06
Were those Apogees the only speakers your Macs had trouble driving?

 

RE: Magnolia in Palo Alto, posted on December 2, 2014 at 17:28:58
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You didn't miss much. I may not have spent much time there, but it was like an every man's HiFi shoppe; basically, nothing to get our blood pressure up. However, I miss the old times. Only Apple and Restoration Hardware occupy that strip for big item retail, but Palo Alto Bicycle is still going strong. Lots of bicycle shops, still, fortunately, where you can go to a store where they really know their product.

[Not even a book store, as Borders closed quite a while ago under the competition from Amazon's online sales. So, I have little reason to go there anymore.]

 

Restoration Hardware , posted on December 2, 2014 at 17:34:38
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gone too. When I was there last May I noticed it was empty. I like to eat at the corner cafe across from it...

 

Not at all, posted on December 2, 2014 at 17:36:44
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I had JBL 4330's before the Apogees and it drove them perfectly. Before that I had Infinity's and that worked too.

 

Good to hear..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 18:14:07
I still admire that Big Mac amp that I could never afford. I love the way those things look and I'm sure they can sound very good - with the right loudspeakers.

 

I was deeply saddened that it, posted on December 2, 2014 at 18:16:50
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could not power the Scintillas....

 

RE: Restoration Hardware -- is NOT gone, posted on December 2, 2014 at 18:25:44
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They closed a bunch of stores, but NOT the Palo Alto location. I like that store. Their furniture is way too expensive, but they have other stuff that is very well made and worth the price. Their sales people are of high-caliber as well.

 

RE: "I was deeply saddened that it could not...", posted on December 2, 2014 at 18:33:22
Many have tried, I'm sure.

 

Ooopsie, posted on December 2, 2014 at 18:47:24
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I was thinking of that high end bathroom store on the corner of Hamilton & Emerson...the one that sold Turkish towels for 90 bucks! Sorry, been gone from the area too long and off of University not long enough...

 

Palo Alto..., posted on December 2, 2014 at 18:49:46
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...in the late 1970s and early 1980s was home to The Audible Difference, one of the Bay Area's best audio stores.

 

Did you come for our jazz festival?, posted on December 2, 2014 at 18:52:54



lol

 

Where Wayne Garcia worked, posted on December 2, 2014 at 19:10:00
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and where I bought the Apogee Scintilla's, my VTL, various Meridian gear, and my Well Tempered TT. Wayne was at my place time after time setting up and fine tuning. Whenever he left he had a sheet of paper listing albums I had played while we fiddled. Fine compliment when he told me I had the best taste in music that he ever came across.
It was a great store, I have no idea if it is even there now.

 

RE: Where Wayne Garcia worked, posted on December 2, 2014 at 20:52:53
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...last time I was there was in about 1998 after Russ sold it and the store moved to El Camino Real.

One of the rooms had been converted to home theater so it wasn't the same.

Garcia was a cohort of Valin's when they wrote for TAS. When the they both left and went to Fi magazine, HP felt betrayed and made Garcia "persona non grata" at the magazine, I was told.

Later when Martin bought TAS and brought him back, Harry was not very happy about it.

 

Wayne could, posted on December 2, 2014 at 21:06:41
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dial in a TT and cart like no one else. But they were on El Camino at least as far back as when Apogee came forth and the Well Tempered came out. I do not know where they may have been before then....late 1980's ...

 

First real listen to McIntosh for me, posted on December 3, 2014 at 04:55:50
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I listened to the 600 wpc monos with the B&W 802diamonds and the music just effortlessly oozed out of the speakers into the room.

Then they tried to tell me how good the Rotel gear was and it would be hard to tell the difference for the money. WRONG! They used the latest Rotel Separates and CDP driving the B&W803Ds and the same music struggled to get out of the speakers compared to the Mc System.

The 3rd setup they had was with the Mc 3channel amp driving Sonus Faber Olymipca IIIs which was also very nice but I did not get to spend enough time with that setup to hear what all the rave on the Olympicas is all about. I thought the 802Ds sounded pretty damn good but I suppose if the SFs were driven with the 600wpc monos, they would have shined better.

 

RE: However you want to rate them.., posted on December 3, 2014 at 04:56:12
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interesting definition of bliss.....

by the way, from your system, i see you don't have CIAudio power amp - any reason?

roger wang

 

RE: McIntosh is high end?, posted on December 3, 2014 at 08:00:13
Define "trouble driving". Your fans are dying to know...

 

RE: Wrong Tap, or not enough power?- what model was it? nt , posted on December 3, 2014 at 08:00:56
Great witness!

 

RE: Wayne could, posted on December 3, 2014 at 08:10:55
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...the original store was off of University when I first went there in about 1980.

 

RE: Where Wayne Garcia worked, posted on December 3, 2014 at 08:17:16
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what became the "New Audible Difference" is now known as "Future Sound" in Burlingame,CA. Wayne has been running a wine shop in San Francisco DigWineSF or digwinesf.com.

 

Wayne was always into wines, posted on December 3, 2014 at 08:23:04
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a Cab fanatic if I recall correctly...

 

Did you ever know Fred Yondo?, posted on December 3, 2014 at 08:27:24
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he was partners in a Hi Fi shop that was on University Circa 1980 or so. He left that and went to work for KEF. The store was on the east end of the University ave biz district....

 

RE: Define "trouble driving"?, posted on December 3, 2014 at 09:07:46
Mostly, I'd define it as producing thin bass and discombobulated mids and highs.

And don't ask me to define "discombobulated", because deep inside I'm sure you know what that is.

 

RE: "Great witness!", posted on December 3, 2014 at 09:13:35
Well, my name isn't Inspector Columbo so I guess I naively trusted in their setup abilities.

Maybe your real name is Inspector Columbo? When I feel your nose poking into my ass-cheeks I imagine that it is...

 

RE: Did you come for our jazz festival?, posted on December 3, 2014 at 09:28:49
Hahahahahaha!

Dang, I missed that one.

Elsie the cow looks like she's diggin' it.

I've never seen a French horn held that way. I've always seen it held like I hold a woman.

Seriously, I gotta get back to GB and say hey to my old cohorts in audio. Vince gave me my first job installing commercial sound systems, and Augie taught me everything I know about how to run wire and install. Those were the daze.

:)

 

Ha! That was back in the days when they all wore the same shade of red lipstick..., posted on December 3, 2014 at 09:29:20
.., both cows and women.

 

RE: Did you ever know Fred Yondo?, posted on December 3, 2014 at 10:37:42
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...didn't know him but that was where Audible Difference was - east end of University north on a side street.

 

RE: However you want to rate them.., posted on December 3, 2014 at 20:14:18
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Well, the Cary CAA1 was bought as a experiment just to see what a ice amp sounds like. I ended up kind of liking it, very smooth and none fatiguing.
Since I added the CIAudio passive pre, which is also my first time trying a passive, I have though about the CIAudio amps, but I really do not want mono blocs for this system, I just have no more power outlets for another power supply. If they made a stereo version I may try one.

AB.

 

RE: First real listen to McIntosh for me, posted on December 3, 2014 at 20:23:28
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I guess I will have to go back and take a listen. I just walked by and took a quick look.

AB

 

RE: Wayne could, posted on December 4, 2014 at 10:16:06
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Was that in, or next to a ranch style shopping center? I visited that store once while on a service call in the early 90's. In a smallish listening room on the left they displayed large Eggelstonworks driven by a small VTL 80. That room really clicked for me and left me rethinking my system.

On the way out someone was setting up a system with chrome faceplates. He was complaining loudly about the difficulty in removing the fingerprints from the chrome. I went out to the van and gave him a couple packs of lint free wipes. He was amazed and pleasantly thankful. Nice guy, nice store.

The Bay Area had a rich community of brick and mortar audio stores.

 

RE: "Great witness!", posted on December 4, 2014 at 10:31:39
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Columbo was a Lieutenant.

 

RE: "Great witness!", posted on December 4, 2014 at 13:05:24
True, but he was constantly inspecting - mostly for incriminating evidence. Just like middleground!

Here's another possibility...

 

Be careful with your analogy..., posted on December 4, 2014 at 13:12:42
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because the lieutenant was almost always correct in his suspicions.

 

RE: Be careful with your analogy..., posted on December 4, 2014 at 14:48:25
"Almost"? Sorry, that's not quite good enough for AA.

Hey, did Colombo ever look in the mirror? His hairdo and general demeanor would suggest not...

 

RE: Be careful with your analogy..., posted on December 4, 2014 at 16:04:26
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While Columbo's appearance was outwardly disheveled it's generally assumed by enthusiasts that it was a calculated effort on his part as a misdirect to the suspects he was pursuing.

That being said, yes, he did look in mirrors. In Double Exposure (my personal fav episode) he makes several comments to Dr. Keppel (the murderer portrayed by Robert Culp in a performance that can only be described as *MWUAH*) that he's keeping notes of details about the case that just don't add up on his shaving mirror in an effort to keep them top of mind.

An episode you might enjoy would be "Old Fashioned Murder". Columbo winds up inadvertently getting a haircut and style as he questions a hairdresser. In the following scene he questions a man in a watch shop and frequently admires his new hairstyle in a mirror on the display counter.

 

RE: McIntosh is high end?, posted on December 4, 2014 at 19:34:30
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Check out the number of uber expensive member systems featuring McIntosh gear here: AudioAficionado.org, particularly founder 'MasterLu.' Evidently, these folks with $250K+ systems think it's pretty good stuff.

 

RE: McIntosh is high end?, posted on December 4, 2014 at 19:45:16
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Oh, and here's a post about AudioAficionado on another audio forum, What' Best.com:

"One of my LEAST favorite sites is now the apparently well viewed "audioaficionado.org" site.
I see they have 30K members
Not only are my privileges now suspended over there....I have NO idea why, BUT when I was posting, I was usually flamed to death in about one microsecond
MasterLu ( I think he is one of the founders) was NOT impressed if anyone dared to say anything detrimental about his beloved Mac gear.. I had the bad taste to in my first post no less, to opine that my SF GH's were superior to the later SF M's and that IMHO Mac gear is NOT a good match to the SF speakers and the GH's in particular.....My flame suit immediately caught fire and I was engulfed

Did I say I was banned form the site...Oh yeah, now I remember why

Any of you guys a member over there ( Should be called the Mac lovers site, IMO)....be careful, be very careful
What other sites are you guys banned from?"

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 4, 2014 at 20:24:57
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Re the green tube lighting. It is a new feature on the most recent edition. They also illuminate sequencially during the tube warmup. The glowing green is not my style, and doesn't match my older version 275 (now running as mono blocks), so fortunately the green is defeatable by inserting an eighth inch headphone jack into a certain hole on the front panel.

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 4, 2014 at 21:33:30
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It's good to know that McIntosh had enough sense to let owners disable the green LED lighting. In a pair of 275's set up as mono blocks I'd hate to have one glowing green and the other one 'normal'.



 

Hmmm, interesting, thanks for the info. nt., posted on December 5, 2014 at 07:49:43
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nt.

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 5, 2014 at 08:16:22
I went through my McIntosh phase back in 1970. Went to the local dealer and fell for the glossy black faceplates and blue meters of a C28 pre and a MC 2105 amp. Kept them for six years, then replaced them with a GAS Son of Ampzilla amp and Thalia pre.

IMO, the Mac gear was okay but I liked the sound of the GAS stuff more. I really should have opted for an MC275 and C22 instead of the SS Mac gear. Had I done that I might still have them today. Shoulda, coulda, woulda ;-)

There's a Best Buy/Magnoila store about 25 miles away. I haven't been there in years after being ignored by the "salesmen" in the Magnolia section. It seemed that they were more interested in BS-ing among themselves rather than bothering with a potential customer. Perhaps I'll drop in the next time I'm in the area. I'm curious to see what they've done with McIntosh.

Cheers,
Al

Cheers,
Al

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 5, 2014 at 11:33:47
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Be careful, you may fall in love again. She is even prettier now, and the price is not the same as in the seventies :)

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 5, 2014 at 18:13:11
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Pretty nice Magnolia inside the Best Buy at Santana Row in San Jose, Ca. The others I've seen pale in comparison.

Still, not a lot of brands that have ended up in my systems, but nice stuff for someone.

See ya. Dave

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 20, 2014 at 12:37:53
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I like the fact that Best Buy has embraced better solutions for the audio/video folks. The store within BB is actually called Magnolia Design Center which is quite different than the regular Magnolia stores inside of BB. Their team of sales people is not the same as the regular sales people within their stores. They're actually pretty good.

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 21, 2014 at 19:04:57
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Wait, did they close the Winchester location? I've moved away...

Mike

 

RE: Best Buy finally gone Hi End..., posted on December 22, 2014 at 10:29:23
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Yes.

See ya. Dave

 

RE: Indeed, why would you want to buy anything high end from Magnolia?, posted on December 23, 2014 at 12:51:48
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I guess I'm happy that the Hi End equipment is getting out to more of the general public in these stores. You make many valid points, but the fact of the matter is that "most" people have never been exposed to this type of audio gear before because they never set foot inside a real audio salon. Why? I'll tell you why. Sadly, it's because many audio salons made people feel like crap for looking. One was made to feel second rate if they didn't "have an appointment." That snobbish attitude chased away many potential customers. So cheers for Best Buy for selling some truly high end equipment to hopefully turn more people on to the hi end.

 

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