Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money

streaming service?, posted on October 14, 2014 at 21:49:23
bullethead	Can we stream too or just a portable service? I can't hear the interview, it is too loud in here!

RE: Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money, posted on October 15, 2014 at 00:39:16
Atwood Audiophile Posts: 527 Joined: October 10, 2001	In a much longer and more far-ranging interview, the topic of sound quality came up and Tom Petty spoke very positively about Pono. But Mad Money? First Darryl Hannah and now Jim Cramer.

"Those of us who are audiophiles...", posted on October 15, 2014 at 05:51:07
rlw Audiophile Posts: 3347 Location: Near West Palm Bch, FL Joined: August 29, 2006	"The BSR turntable, the Pickering stylus..." GMAFB! Now Cramer is an audiophile? Even as a kid I knew that BSR and Pickering were, at best, low end mid-fi. I had better stuff when I was 11... -RW-

Good On Kramer!, posted on October 15, 2014 at 06:08:48

geezerrocket

I thought Mr. Kramer did a really good job describing the PONO in layman's terms in the limited time he was allotted in the segment.

"It's like a long distance call versus a face to face conversation, the difference is that great". Well stated Mr. Kramer.

In cars by 2016 - great!

There will be a few pissed audiophiles because they don't want "regular people" in their hobby. I guess they will have to find another hobby dominated by dorks - model railroading perhaps.

The sooner we can get rid of mp3 and 16/44.1 in favor of higher rez formats, the better.

RE: Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money, posted on October 15, 2014 at 07:09:59
middleground	"one of the greatest musicians alive"... 'nuff said. That commentator is just ignorant.

RE: "The sooner we can get rid of mp3 and 16/44.1 in favor of higher rez formats, the better."..., posted on October 15, 2014 at 07:40:23
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	Need to get out more, if you are using mp3 and 16/44.1 in the same sentence. Not that much wrong with 16/44.1 as a format. Mostly just shortcomings in recording and playback technology. First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

hobby dominated by dorks -Speak for yourself. nt, posted on October 15, 2014 at 07:46:05
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If you are reading this - you already are a dork, posted on October 15, 2014 at 08:03:58
Zipcord Manufacturer Posts: 707 Location: No. California Joined: December 19, 2002	long live dorks!

Sigh- Ok, I give up! nt, posted on October 15, 2014 at 08:16:37
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I wonder how my Korg DS Dac100 in DSD 5.8 at $444, posted on October 15, 2014 at 08:19:41
oldmkvi Audiophile Posts: 10583 Joined: April 12, 2002	stacks up against Audio Note or DCS 16/44.1. The price difference is huge. Too big for me!

I Get Out Plenty, posted on October 15, 2014 at 08:39:55
geezerrocket	One format (mp3) sucks ass, the other (16/44.1) sucks slightly less...... To paraphrase Paul McGowan of PS Audio fame; Great digital struggles to achieve what is easily attainable by even modest analog. PS Audio puts beans on the table with their digital offerings.

Just got back from RMAF, Audio Note room sounded great, as usual..., posted on October 15, 2014 at 09:03:07

Ivan303
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Those rooms NOT exclusively playing vinyl, and many were, were either playing directly from a computer of some sort and/or spinning silver disks.

I'd say over half of the rooms would willingly play just about any CD you brought into the room and most of those were 16/44.1 Redbook CDs.

In fact, many rooms playing music from files of one sort or another would announce that what you were hearing was ripped CD's not Hi Rez.

First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

RE: If you are reading this - you already are a dork, posted on October 15, 2014 at 09:28:44

geezerrocket

Agreed.

99% on this forum are at least somewhat of a "dork", the other 1% are deluded.

Dorks - making others look cool since the dawn of time.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVpnUHGpFDk

Where do you go?, posted on October 15, 2014 at 09:42:02

tketcham
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Hi, geezerrocket,
In my experience, the relative sound quality of MP3 compared to redbook CD (16/44.1) is far more of a difference than "sucks slightly less". I am able to enjoy music played from CDs, nearly as much as from LPs, but I cannot listen to music played from MP3 quality files. The sound hurts my brain and I can usually immediately tell that I'm listening to lossy digital files. (The exception is if the playback device is basically a cheap piece-o-crap and anything played on it would hurt your ears.)

You might be able to make your case if CDs were universally badly recorded and mastered, but the sound quality from many modern CDs is quite good, especially if played on a relatively decent system. Perhaps you're just very sensitive to 16/44.1 resolution. If so, that's unfortunate, because you're missing out on a lot of great music.

Regards,
Tom

I don't agree on CD quality but otherwise spot on., posted on October 15, 2014 at 11:56:09

Goober58

Not that I care about people using mp3 there's plenty of alternatives available for me.

The problem IMO with 2 channel folks as they've been trained to believe that better sound is going to cost more money. Huh, there's a revolution in sound quality happening at lower price points. Other than moving to higher rez formats the "high end" offers little real for the general public to get excited about except the pride of ownership of beautiful and/or expensive audio systems. Nothing wrong with that.

I could be wrong but is it possible that a device like the pono, or some other quality portable DAP when connected to a DAC and fed to high quality powered speakers could compete sonically with 10s of thousands of dollars in front end gear?

Given quality recordings there really isn't any reason why not.

RE: Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money, posted on October 15, 2014 at 13:30:00
mbnx01 Audiophile Posts: 7956 Location: Eagle, Idaho Joined: October 22, 2004	Thank you. It needed to be said. 'A lie is halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on'. -Mark Twain

RE: Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money, posted on October 15, 2014 at 16:21:21
driver8 Audiophile Posts: 842 Location: Montreal Joined: December 5, 2002	I think that the commentator meant 'musical artist' and I agree with him. Although past his prime, Neil Young's body of work speaks for itself. It's quite a creative achievement which few can rival. At least the ones still breathing.

RE: Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money, posted on October 15, 2014 at 16:48:28
middleground	I wonder is Joni Mitchell still alive?

RE: Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money, posted on October 15, 2014 at 17:04:44
sudz1234@yahoo.com Audiophile Posts: 2956 Joined: February 20, 2011	Darryl Hannah is past her expiration date. The last time she was hot is when she played Bud Foxx's girlfriend in Wall street.

Time for a surname change. nt, posted on October 15, 2014 at 19:16:57
tinear Audiophile Posts: 65782 Location: Kansas City, KS Joined: April 9, 2006	d

RE: Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money, posted on October 15, 2014 at 21:30:17
driver8 Audiophile Posts: 842 Location: Montreal Joined: December 5, 2002	She's right up there in my estimation, along with a handful of others such as Dylan and McCartney (at least in rock anyway).

Now I get it. Took me a while. (nt), posted on October 16, 2014 at 12:37:46
mcondo Audiophile Posts: 1411 Joined: May 12, 2002	x

Really dude what's your expiration date?, posted on October 16, 2014 at 13:09:40
Goober58	Honest comments like yours make me think of some ugly as sin dude sitting with a box of Kleenex while watching skin flicks and reading porno zines. How close am I? Maybe I'm too old but if I were single I'd think she, and Hilary Clinton for that matter, would be awesome women to be involved with. But that's just me - needy women no matter how attractive turn me off.

RE: Really dude what's your expiration date?, posted on October 16, 2014 at 15:11:13
sudz1234@yahoo.com Audiophile Posts: 2956 Joined: February 20, 2011	Hilary Clinton? What are you smoking goober Pyle? What's next, aunt bee.

RE: Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money, posted on October 16, 2014 at 16:29:19
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	Fitting title- Uncle Neil should have 'mad money' after this whole thing takes off...

RE: "Those of us who are audiophiles...", posted on October 16, 2014 at 18:44:31
Kidomaha Audiophile Posts: 92 Location: Indiana Joined: September 13, 2014	I actually did have a BSR and BSR speakers when I was 13. Sold the equalizer this week! Still have the speakers. 15" woofers. Fun for a 13 year old... and apparently Neil Young. Kerry

RE: Really dude what's your expiration date?, posted on October 16, 2014 at 22:27:47
Goober58	Aint Bee, not me, she ain't got any money.

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Neil Young on CNBC's Mad Money

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