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I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon

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Posted on July 13, 2014 at 14:32:54
sudz1234@yahoo.com
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 They were talking about going to brick and mortar stores and getting dissed by the sales staff and the owner. They were talking about the enviroment of the store and the anti-consumer sediment. I know this is a totally different websites where opinions really differ. I would love your opinions how you are treated in stores. Thanks for reading.

 

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RE: "anti-consumer sediment", posted on July 13, 2014 at 14:35:07
willkayakforfood
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 Must wear good boots.

 

That's the worst kind., posted on July 13, 2014 at 14:58:43
mark111
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 It get stuck everywhere.
enjoy,
mark

 

The lowest. nt, posted on July 13, 2014 at 15:09:04
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RE: The lowest. nt, posted on July 13, 2014 at 15:13:41
sudz1234@yahoo.com
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 I love this website. People are so edumacated.

 

It's such a dreg that it doesn't seem to have..., posted on July 13, 2014 at 15:37:15
musetap
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 rubbed off on you.

"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

Nobody wants to waste time dealing with people who are going to buy mail order or discount house, posted on July 13, 2014 at 16:10:19
Goober58
 I'm not kidding over the years the majority of "customers" I've met at audio shops end up buying crap at the big box or mail order thing or nothing at all.

I hate this shit - then those same people come here and whine about not being treated like kings when they go to an audio salon.

Dealers can spot that BS a mile away. Why the F should they waste their time on some bozo who's not gonna buy or not gonna buy unless they get some big discount?

Yea sure I've been dis'd at a shop or two myself. Some shops just don't care to deal with people like us. I don't blame em.

 

What is your experience?, posted on July 13, 2014 at 17:50:53
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 It strikes me that folks reap what they sow. I can't recall ever being treated poorly even if I tell the folks that I'm not looking to buy anything.

I also don't waste their time and buy online. If one were to do that often, I'd suspect that you might get treated poorly on the 37th visit.




-Rod

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 13, 2014 at 18:25:20
Bill Way
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 Don't think I've ever had a bad experience. Hanging out in Harmony House in the early 70's, going to Lyric to hear the IRS V's, or stopping in Singer for odds and ends. But I always let the salesperson know what's going on, i.e. whether I'm buying or just want to hear something for kicks that I'll probably never buy. That said, if I ever did encounter that, I'd be out of there in a second.

I get the "holier than thou" approach. It appeals to the kind of immature male who gets an erection at the thought of gigantic blue McIntosh meters. But if the sales rep thinks that is me, (s)he just isn't competent.

WW
"Put on your high heeled sneakers. Baby, we''re goin'' out tonight.

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 13, 2014 at 18:33:33
sudz1234@yahoo.com
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 That reminds me of a friend of mine. He get's turned on by the blue meters. If he ever see's a hot woman it does nothing for him. I guess if chicks started walking around with blue meters on their chest they could capture the Mac crowd.

 

RE: Nobody wants to waste time dealing with people who are going to buy mail order or discount house, posted on July 13, 2014 at 18:35:45
sudz1234@yahoo.com
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 I agree with you. They can see the tire kickers from miles away!

 

RE: What is your experience?, posted on July 13, 2014 at 18:40:35
sudz1234@yahoo.com
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 Your a player dog. You are running an Audio website. Of course they aren't going to kick you to the curb. If they did you would be on here screaming bloody murder.

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 13, 2014 at 18:56:45
petercapo
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 I generally don't have those kinds of problems, probably because I am very up-front with sales staff. I respect their time and tell them exactly why I am there, whether I am going to buy anything or not, just looking, shopping around, etc. And, I would never feel right about taking their time if I knew in advance that I intended to purchase the same item somewhere else.

Sometimes they have dumped a prima donna trip on me, which never helps anything. It has actually crossed over into being insulting, in which case I have pushed back. Whatever. I generally have a positive rapport with local hifi shops.

 

RE: What is your experience?, posted on July 13, 2014 at 19:10:26
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 >>Your a player dog. You are running an Audio website.

What do you think? That I'd wear all Audio Asylum logoed gear and tell sales people that I'm an important person?

I'm just not that kind of arrogant jerk though my wife might claim otherwise.




-Rod

 

RE: What is your experience?, posted on July 13, 2014 at 21:02:33
sudz1234@yahoo.com
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 I figure you park your car in the VIP space and once that see that 458 with the custom Hre's they know you are a player. Then you drop your card will the amount of hit's you get a day and there rolling out the Dom and caviar. I'm not a big boy but I do know how you players roll.

 

I am treated well, I get addressed as, Mr Sox and even, Sir Sox ...., posted on July 13, 2014 at 21:20:00
three_sox
 ... But only by folks who don't know me personally. Otherwise it is, g'day mate.

I have found staff in audio shops to be helpful, engaging and very generous with their time and knowledge.

I have even been directed to other stores if that is a helpful solution.

Only once have I had a salesperson be a little condescending because of how I was dressed. I replied in kind by telling the guy I am the one who can afford what is in the shop and you are the guy that is here selling it. You do the math. :o)

But I think one negative experience is overwhelmingly outweighed by hundreds of very positive experiences.

 

Got a link to that thread? NT, posted on July 13, 2014 at 23:52:45
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RE: Got a link to that thread? NT, posted on July 14, 2014 at 00:44:00
sudz1234@yahoo.com
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 www.audiogon.com
Go to discussion groups under Amps and Preamps. Look for brick and mortar stores.

 

RE: The lowest. nt, posted on July 14, 2014 at 03:50:58
Ozzy
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 Obviously YOU ain't one of 'em..........

Oz


Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.
- Winston Churchill

 

"Consumer sediment", that sums it up. Nt, posted on July 14, 2014 at 06:30:46
viridian
 Nt

 

Lol, much worse than his singular verb and plural noun in his following sentence^, posted on July 14, 2014 at 07:28:55
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"E Burres Stigano?"


 

RE: What is your experience? i love you...., posted on July 14, 2014 at 07:59:22
wangmr
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 but you're playing stereotypes more than you're playing your stereo.

roger wang.

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 14, 2014 at 08:00:15
middleground
 "sediment"?

Don't go there!

 

Cheese n' crackers, man. It's "you're", not "your"., posted on July 14, 2014 at 08:25:31
Markw*
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 Rudimentary spelling and grammar seems to be lacking for some.

 

Perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...N/T, posted on July 14, 2014 at 10:18:12
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 N/T
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

RE: Perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...N/T, posted on July 14, 2014 at 10:37:45
wangmr
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 remember: it was said with love in my heart, quad-love (for each of the four chambers of my heart).

roger wang.

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 14, 2014 at 11:06:29
daleda
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 And why would you believe anything on Audiogon? Site has been complete crap since change over. Anyone who shops there now is beyond foolish.

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 14, 2014 at 11:48:20
jperry
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 Thanks for confining your idiotic trolling to this site and not mucking up other audio related sites. I am sure others will appreciate this sediment (sic)

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 14, 2014 at 13:33:20
abs1
 Sediment or excrement?

Cheers,
Al

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 14, 2014 at 15:41:13
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 Sudz on AA is Taters on AudiogoN. I would not be surprised if the pollution invades other sites too.

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 14, 2014 at 16:02:12
jperry
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 Thanks for the scoop.

 

So clever (and funny) that you just lost your option..., posted on July 14, 2014 at 17:47:30
DeKay
 of playing the language barrier "card" (the one you've played many times in the past).

Edit:

Are you Larry/Laurence who once had a moniker that included the word"audiophile"?

Anyway, you remind me of him.

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 14, 2014 at 18:10:25
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 That reminds me.

Thank you

 

RE: So clever (and funny) that you just lost your option..., posted on July 14, 2014 at 18:14:26
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 As high school kids, my buddy and I used haunt the HiFi shops of Santa Monica and Westwood in the early 50s, carrying a copy of Toscanini's Pictures. The sales folk never rejected playing it on equipment we couldn't possibly afford. But the sports car dealers on Ventura boulevard also let us take out XK-120 and 140 Jags. Seems crazy in retrospect, but maybe they thought they were building a future customer base.

db

 

So CA's weirdness goes back further than I thought..., posted on July 14, 2014 at 20:46:05
DeKay
 Didn't live here until 1977, but visited in the early 60's, the late 60's & then again in the early 70's.

Didn't get much of what I saw (while visiting) until later on, aside from the Venice Beach riots.

Nice link below.

 

I wasn't referring to his mastery of English......, posted on July 15, 2014 at 06:33:41
viridian
 I simply found the construction "consumer sediment" to be very apt as it applies to audiophile types who are, IMHO, usually found feeding on the bottom.

 

Back in the day, posted on July 15, 2014 at 07:21:20
Kloss
 I was thinking of buying velodyne 15in sub and B&W speakers from our oldest local shop I had cash in pocket ready to buy but thought best to listen to 2 pairs of B&W before purchase. I waited and waited no others in store just 2 sales staff. I walked to front of store asked for assistance they said they would get to me rudely I waited some more got sick of it so went to store front and again waited as they chit chatted with a UPS guy. I asked again they gave me the look. I flashed cash about 8k at the time they perked up and I walked. I purchased much gear over the years and later got to know owner and head sales guy but I never bought from them again. I headed to another shop and was treated great. I still buy from that shop in madison the others gone now. But was a long time ago now sales guys kiss my ass since they know I buy. Think the old judgemental snobby audio shops pretty much gone today and that might be a good thing.

 

Yes, treated badly., posted on July 15, 2014 at 08:45:00
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 Especially at Lyric: When I expressed interest in dipole speakers, they flatly refused to play Quads or Maggies for me. So when the time came to buy, I ordered from Acoustic Sounds and Music Direct and Magnepan (MMG).

 

Yup, posted on July 15, 2014 at 09:29:45
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 Paul Heath on N. Clark St. in Chicago was sort of like that. If you walked in and weren't dressed to the nines you might well be ignored. Word got around and finally they were gone. A few others have gone by the wayside or are about to.

Qualifying customers is one thing, but there's no excuse for rudeness. Treat people in kind and always give them a positive experience. Karma comes around.
Brian Walsh

 

RE: I just read an Interesting thread on Audiogon, posted on July 15, 2014 at 09:31:52
Palustris
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 My sediments [sic] exactly.

 

The sub-topic is, "What is your experience?", posted on July 15, 2014 at 10:04:14
soulfood
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 "I'm not a big boy [player?] but I do know how you players roll."

Even if you watch fair amount of reality TV, that does not count in context of this discussion. You might be able to stay on point if you curtail this obsession you have with the wealth of others. Of course, this would mean conceding many of the arguments you pose.

If you covet respect, start by making an effort to understand what passes as experienced knowledge {player?}, here.

 

I'm pretty sure he meant "consumer sentiment" but with Sudz, who the heck knows^, posted on July 15, 2014 at 20:49:03
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"E Burres Stigano?"


 

Yes, an amusing slip, no doubt. Nt, posted on July 16, 2014 at 06:24:03
viridian
 Nt

 

RE: I'm pretty sure he meant "consumer sentiment" but with Sudz, who the heck knows^, posted on July 23, 2014 at 18:13:52
michaelhigh
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 When I frequent B&M's of any kind related to our hobby, I identify myself as a blog writer (albeit infrequently of late), and the red carpet rolls out. In other words, no Dom and fish eggs, but genuine interest in giving me an exemplary experience, and usually, an open invite for an extended future listening sesh at my convenience. I write objectively, no perfunctory asskissing, and so far, respected for my paltry contribution to our hobby.

 

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