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iTunes might be offering Hi-Rez soon?

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Posted on April 10, 2014 at 15:18:14
Waxxy
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 At least that's the rumour. I sure hope so because downloadable HD is scarce for audio-dorks in the Great White North. I bought myself an Astell & Kern AK120 and I NEED more hi-rez!!!! NEED!!! DO YOU HEAR ME???


 

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RE: iTunes might be offering Hi-Rez soon?, posted on April 10, 2014 at 15:27:44
rrob
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 Just record your vinyl at 24/96. IMO, if you like vinyl, digitizing vinyl sounds better than hi-rez downloads.

 

RE: iTunes might be offering Hi-Rez soon?, posted on April 10, 2014 at 15:41:33
StephenJK
 You can download from HDTracks. Yes, I know, they say they won't sell to a Canadian address.

All you have to do is open an account with an "imaginary" US Address and use Paypal to buy what you need.

There's nothing illegal about it, you're not breaking any laws or committing any crimes.

It's worked fine for me on the few occasions where I've downloaded from them.

 

RE: iTunes might be offering Hi-Rez soon?, posted on April 10, 2014 at 16:17:52
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 Great idea but unfortunately not all the music I enjoy is available on vinyl. And the act of digitizing is something I have little time for at this point in my life.

 

RE: iTunes might be offering Hi-Rez soon?, posted on April 10, 2014 at 16:27:24
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 Actually I did manage to sign up and download quite a bit of music from HDTracks until they figured out that I was a Canuck. But to be honest the selection there is pretty meagre and I managed to get most of what I wanted from them.

Now I want to see a selection like iTunes provides, but hi-rez. According to the article (rumour) the hi-rez downloads will only be $1 more than the current pricing. Lets hope so.

 

This has been..., posted on April 10, 2014 at 16:32:02
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 ...a rumor for many years.

I'm still waiting for Apple Lossless downloads.

 

That would be a significant shift, posted on April 10, 2014 at 18:07:35
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 in music marketing. Actually being able to download what you want in at least middle (Redbook) resolution.

 

I do, but, posted on April 10, 2014 at 18:09:16
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 the offerings are incredibly thin. Very little is truly available.

What we need is the universal ability to download at least CD quality.

 

RE: iTunes might be offering Hi-Rez soon?, posted on April 11, 2014 at 05:29:45
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 Also it appears that Apple was getting 24bit files from the record companies for years now.

It's just that the same record companies refused to let Apple sell them in that format.
If you care to remember Apple wanted to sell unrestricted Redbook or better from the get go but the record companies insisted on DRM and mp3.
If Apple get the go-ahead from the powers that be Pono will be dead in the water.

The good thing is that my ageing ipod is quite happy to play 24bit files although it does not go higher than 48k.

 

RE: iTunes might be offering Hi-Rez soon?, posted on April 11, 2014 at 13:36:40
Ed Sawyer
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 The funniest part about the whole hoopla about this is the "original source" of that info is none other than the enormous infamous douchebag asshat Robert Hutton (Pollara), who has been banned from AA and basically any other audio forum on the web. So, take whatever he has to say with a grain of salt. If you want to resarch why he is such a nutjob, search the archives here - many people have corroborating experiences on how much of a fruitcake he is.

 

I agree., posted on April 12, 2014 at 15:04:18
StephenJK
 If I could download and album with CD quality for under $10.00 I would never buy hardware again.

 

BUT-, posted on April 13, 2014 at 13:26:07
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 No "i" product contains a DAC that is capable of natively playing a file with a resolution that is higher than 24/48. A few companies have signed a licensing agreement with Apple to allow for the extraction of raw data that can be sent to an external Dac for processing. But such an interface negates the portability of i products.

A high Rez capable i product will mean one has to purchase another i product if portable features are to be retained. Otherwise one will be locked into desktop only use of Apple encrypted high Rez files.

Best. Ross

 

RE: BUT-, posted on April 13, 2014 at 20:38:54
mkuller
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 ...for iTunes, hi res would be Lossless or AIFF - 16/44.1.

 

Onkyo HF Player enables 'hi-res' including DSD on iDevices, posted on April 14, 2014 at 09:50:15
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Onkyo HF Player App Offers Precision Equalizer, 192/24 Playback on iOS Devices

Press Release dated: 24 Oct 2013

* Free HF Player Includes 16,000-band FIR Equalizer with Memory Presets
* In-App Purchase Enables 192 kHz/24-bit DSD*, FLAC, WAV Playback on iOS


 

Playback software is not the problem, posted on April 14, 2014 at 11:31:31
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 The DACs in the current generation of "i" devices are incapable of reproducing digital data with a resolution greater than 24/48. Anything higher will be downsampled.

Apple will have to release new players with hirez DACs before native hirez playback is possible.

So not only will we have to purchase additional copies of music we already own, we will have to purchase new devices to play back the new files.

Best,

Ross

 

RE: Playback software is not the problem, posted on April 17, 2014 at 15:31:57
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How do you know this about the iDevice's internal CODEC chip? Do you have credible web links with actual specs? It is my understanding that the newer iDevices use an Apple spec'd Cirrus Logic CODEC but I have yet to see published specs. Thanks.

If 'native hi-res' is not available from the internal CODEC and lineout or headphone out, it is certainly available via USB using the USB camera connection kit to external DAC. Along with the Onkyo HF player, it will enable support for 24/192 PCM in various popular formats (FLAC, WAV, etc.) and DSD.


 

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