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Holy Eastern

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Posted on April 23, 2000 at 07:45:09
Rob


 
Before I leave to 'gourmet' with my dad and sis, a family-reunion of the only surviving members of it I want to dedicate a post to the family of orchestras just captured as great as it was; Concertgebouworkest under the baton of Eduard van Beinum in Bruckner 8.

I've been spinning a lot of records lately, but this one is the pinnacle of balance and overall greatness, making you hear the extreme virtuosity of each musician without making it a contest proving who's the best. No, this is an orchestra as it should be and this treasure belongs in everyone's collection, Bruckner-lover or not.

I bought a Chateauneuf-du-Pape, Domaine Jullian 1997. ( robe pourpre soutenu, nez qui rapelle les petits fruits rouge bien murs, excellente structure en bouche, long et persistant. Yes, I always wanted Tamara and Edwin to taste a great wine and I'm sure my dad will take a cab instead of his car back home -13,5 %)

Hope it goes well with frying your own food and talking about life and love. Get this CD or find it on vinyl ladies and gentlemen, because I need feedback on it and denationaliasation of my thoughts. O my gawd, what a great orchestra, what a great sound, what a beauty, what splendour, what exquisite playing, what gorgeous, what a balance, what a displayed modesty and what a total forgotten conductor.

Yes, I'm freaking. Off to family meeting now to experience the same one for all togetherness and love for the music like in this recording.

Mono, why bother if the music is great?

Good Friday born Rob


 

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Re: Holy Eastern, posted on April 23, 2000 at 08:48:25
Jorge F


 
Weel, I can't confess what kind of, and how many bottles, I bought :-)
(someone may be reading this)
Anyway, there was some French stuff betwenn (though i's inferior to the local).
Among the random stuff in the shopping cart, there was a CD. I tried to confirm the price in a scanner, without luck. I went to a desk and asked the gorgeous employee to confirm it. After two phone calls she declared the sticker was right: 2 Euros (around USD 2,07, I think).
I bought so many bottles that there was few money left! This CD was the same price of a cheap one...
It's a Brahms 4th symphony. Big deal, you're saying. Well, it's from the 'Orchestre Symphonique De La TV Italienne'. 'So what?' Conducted by Sergiu Celibidache. 'Wait. I already heard this name somewhere.'
Yes, that's the guy Rob keeps raving. But this one isn't performed by the Bavarian Radio, so it's cheap :-)
I won't comment the sound quality, in order to avoid getting Rob mad :-)
Let's say it's 'decent'.
I'm waiting for my Walter/Columbia CD to be back home, in order to compare. As usual with Celibidache, it doesn't 'rock'. Very slow and soft, not advised to those that didn't sleep to much, last night (no, I'm not speaking about SH).
Interesting anyway. Perhaps I should visit Carefour more often, to find more. According to CDDB, this should be the 3rd CD of a 4 collection. The booklet (which one?) says nothing about the recording. Does anyone know anything about it?



:-)


 

Happy Birthday Robbie (nt), posted on April 23, 2000 at 15:44:37
Binayak Bhattacharyya


 
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Thanks:-) <nt>, posted on April 23, 2000 at 16:11:55
Rob


 
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Re: Holy Eastern, posted on April 23, 2000 at 16:16:38
Rob


 
The most interesting case would be comparing this recording with the Munchner one.

The world can always use a Celibidache fan, as well as more wine. This night turned out into my dad taking his car and me taking a cab. Dammit, tomorrow I'll go to the Rijksmuseum to see some paintings I never saw before, but Jeroen will have to drive me to my car.

Two beers left,

Rob

 

Happy Birthday Rob!, posted on April 23, 2000 at 17:52:29
patrick S


 
i got you the same thing i got you last year.

patrick S

 

Re: Happy Birthday Rob!, posted on April 23, 2000 at 18:01:10
Rob


 
That's why I don't celebrate it. What's the nice thing about having your birthday at the same date as Adolf Hitler and Sir John Eliot Gardiner?

Hell!

Rob

 

Happy Birthdat Robbo!!!! (nt), posted on April 23, 2000 at 19:44:12
Tom B.


 
nt

 

and you know what?...., posted on April 24, 2000 at 05:20:36
dex


 
...my dad too...and he said exactly the same words...i believe Lenin was on the same date too...

 

Don't worry, be happy (nt), posted on April 24, 2000 at 07:25:36
Jorge F


 
:-)





Regards,

Jorge





 

Re: Holy Eastern, posted on April 24, 2000 at 08:06:16
Jorge F


 
Well, Celibidache isn't a Porsche driver (neither he is Hakkinen or Schummacher), not to mention Jim's beloved 106s...

Shame on you! Why did your father have to drive your car? Fathers aren't supposed to worry these days.

Good luck with the paintings!

(say hello to Jeroen)


:-)






Regards,

Jorge





 

Harte Gefeliciteerd - eh!, posted on April 24, 2000 at 14:40:42
revjac


 
You old wine snorting, vinyl chewin' Dutchman

 

ROTFLMAO!, posted on April 24, 2000 at 16:39:55
Rob


 
Your Dutch is getting better with the day. Dankjewel, meneer Zijlstra, soms voelt het lekker om in je eigen angry sounding language te kunnen praten, especially after a day filled with Rembrandt Harmenszoon van Rijn, Johannes Vermeer, Frans Hals, Pieter Saenredam and other false gods in the art of painting. ( Saenredam was the ancient name of Zaandam and in 1649 he painted the interior of the church around the corner of mijn stulpje.)

Rob

 

My Mother, posted on April 24, 2000 at 22:51:20
revjac


 
Just so happens that my my wife is on a business trip in Ontario and she left a few days early to visit "Pake" & "Beppe" (as the nieces and nephews call them) I happened to ask Mom what the appropriate greeting for "congratulations" and "best wishes" were in our fav language. And then, after that, I saw it was your B'day -- must be Karma!! as they say "s*#t happens"
And this all happened shortly after reading a local newspaper "travel" column indicating that one should never buy their dope from a street dealer in Amsterdam (stick to the licensed cafes) while I was watching a Sat/TV programme featuring the Oslo Sym. (forget the conductor but he's Russian and sure does sweat a lot) Rehearsing and performing Bartok's "Marvelous Mandarin" -- which was really quite good actually!
BTW -- my Mom remembers her aunt and uncle getting all dressed up for a trip to Amsterdam to see the Orchestra under "M" before the war and sort of remembers his disgrace afterwards. She said she was always envious of her aunt & her "wonderful, going to town gown" and said she recalls hearing the Music on the only radio for kilometers and being absolutely fascinated.

 

Goeiedag., posted on April 24, 2000 at 23:34:37
Rob


 
Conductor was Mariss Jansons I guess, he recently performed here in Amsterdam and this summer he will conduct the CO inb the Vondelpark, which is open air and takes classical music out of its ivory tower and appreciated by punkers smoking wiet, spacing along on the sounds of those popular works. Did you like Bartok? I like that piece too, powerful and nice and a great story behind that pantomime.

You should never buy hash in the streets, usually it consists of Goodyear and when you're lucky Michelin MRX, but there a couple of excellent shops near Central Station with tasty powerwiet. Funny I love listening to the same performances as your family did when they still lived here.

In case you haven't got 'Miraculous Mandarin' yet, Abbado recorded one and included is also a 'Scythian Suite'...... Never heard both performances since my Bartok comes from Montreal/Dutoit.

Hartelijke groeten, ook aan Pake en Beppe,

Rob

 

Re: Mandarin, posted on April 25, 2000 at 11:32:12
revjac


 
It was Janssons - I did enjoy the work and thanks for sending along a couple of suggestions - Do you think Dutoit/Montreal does a good job with Bartok? The store has his recordings and I'd be comfortable if you recommend it. I'm also looking for a copy of Reiner and Chicago performing "music for strings, percussion and celesta" on RCA Living Stereo 61504 that includes "Hungarian Sketches" and "Concerto for Orchestra"
Apparently a highly regarded and recommended recording according to my reference book but also seems to be out of print in Canada (quelle surprise)
I see Rattle and BSO have a "Mandarin" coupled with "Concerto for Orch." but I also like the idea of having the "Mandarin" coupled with "Scythian" but I don't know much about Abbado's skills
Decision, decisions!

 

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