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Kate St. John: "There Is Sweet Music Here That Softer Falls"

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Posted on May 22, 2022 at 16:41:56
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I was testing a new driver for a loudspeaker project, to make sure it was not damaged, and to play 72 hours of Pink Noise. The driver is an Eton Symphony II 5-312 Kevlar woofer-mid.

But first, to hear it on some music and, ahem, some Female Vocal, I put on Kate St. John's "There Is Sweet Music Here That Softer Falls," which is her setting of Tennyson's "The Lotus Eaters."

I am posting here because I firmly believe that some of Miss St. John's work goes beyond "Baroque Rock" (or Pop), all the way to Art Song.

BTW, Bruce Springsteen quotes from "The Lotus Eaters" in his song "I Came for You." The part of the poem Springsteen quotes from is:

To each, but whoso did receive of them
And taste, to him the gushing of the wave
Far far away did seem to mourn and rave
On alien shores

Anyway, this is literally a "Shoebox Monitor," built into a genuine shoebox from Kuru and yes, I am happy with my purchase.

No crossover and no tweeter, but this is a VERY promising driver.

amb,

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There's also an extraordinary setting of Tennyson's text by Elgar for a cappella mixed chorus, posted on May 23, 2022 at 10:38:32
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Who knew that Elgar was on the cutting edge of bitonality? It's an incredibly beautiful setting IMHO - or, as one YouTube commenter nicely states, "Elgar fiddles with bitonality gluing the impossible and making flats and sharps collide to shape bittersweet enharmonic stained glasses."








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Bummer! That is QUITE a pearl, but..., posted on May 23, 2022 at 13:15:19
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I listened to most of this (seemingly) perfect choral song collection. Honestly, it all just sounds the same!:-(

Gerontius is his choral masterpiece for me!

 

I've heard Gerontius live, four times, posted on May 23, 2022 at 13:54:34
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Sir David Willcocks, who, as a child, sang for Elgar;
Sir Colin Davis, BSO
Ben Zander, Boston Philharmonic
Sir Colin Davis, BSO.

My favorite was Davis I, with Jessye Norman as the Angel.

But Davis II had the advantages that the Symphony Hall had been taken out and completely rebuilt, and the stage flooring had been replaced... and Sarah Connolly was not chopped liver, either.

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I don't know that recording and would like to hear it, posted on May 23, 2022 at 14:45:40
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My imprint recording was the Rutter-led performance:



I also have the Marlow / Trinity College Choir recording, and have heard the Naxos recording with the Cambridge Choir. They're all excellent, including the YouTube performance embedded in my post above.

Gerontius is of course a different kind of work, with its full orchestral apparatus and soloists. ;-)

 

Don't get me wrong..., posted on May 24, 2022 at 03:52:09
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I agree that Gerontius is a different animal -- I just wanted to add a positive to my negative!:-) The Elgar choral songs are truly beautiful. I was surprised that I felt their sameness en masse on a single recording.

That said, I have been away from choral music for a while and this brief thread has now returned me to that genre -- to me, one of the most deeply contemplative areas in all of classical music.

 

Yes, but only during the First Act!:-)..., posted on May 24, 2022 at 04:01:44
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You remind me that I did see Colin Davis conduct Gerontius live (in NY?) some 20 years ago. But, my seats were too far back for me to be genuinely immersed in the performance. Plus, I think I am biased by the several great recordings I have heard . This is a work that comes off particularly well for home reproduction on a high fidelity system...the power of the orchestra, the organ, the clarity of the vocal lines are all kept in balance...tricky to do live, IMO.

It isn't easy to find live choral events by professional singers -- I should work a little harder to attend some!:-)

 

Wow! This version is REALLY stretched out..., posted on May 24, 2022 at 06:13:14
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At 5 minutes, it is much slower than Handley's version on Hyperion (3'57"). Here's a provocative statement: ALL choral music is better when it is slower!:-)


...and, for me, Tennyson is the beginning, middle and end of everything I love about poetry, and the written word in general. Gushing Romantic, I am -- underneath my steel and granite contemporary demeanor.

Any recommendations on other recordings featuring Tennyson set to music?

 

OOPS, MISSING WORDS!, posted on May 24, 2022 at 06:23:54
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the advantages that the Symphony Hall PIPE ORGAN had been taken out and completely rebuilt

 

I have not heard it, but apparently Arthur Sullivan set "Tears, Idle Tears" (more), posted on May 24, 2022 at 07:57:06
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Now sleeps the crimson petal / Roger Quilter; words by Tennyson

Enoch Arden, Op. 38, TrV. 181, is a melodrama for narrator and piano, written in 1897 by Richard Strauss to the words of the 1864 poem of the same name by Alfred, Lord Tennyson.

Wind of the western sea / Graham Peel; text by Alfred Tennyson

The Serenade for Tenor, Horn and Strings, Op. 31, is a song cycle written in 1943 by Benjamin Britten for tenor, solo horn and a string orchestra. Composed during the Second World War at the request of the horn player Dennis Brain, it is a setting of a selection of six poems by English poets on the subject of night, including both its calm and its sinister aspects. The poets Britten chose to set for the Serenade range from an anonymous 15th-century writer to poets from the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries.

Fernström: Songs of the Sea, Op. 62
I. Break, break, break! (Text: Alfred, Lord Tennyson)

"Crossing the Bar"
The words were set to music in April 1890 as a song[3] for high voice and piano by Charles Villiers Stanford and as a hymn, "Freshwater", for four-part chorus by Sir Hubert Parry (publ. 1893). Other settings include those by Sir Joseph Barnby, Geoffrey Shaw, Charles Ives,[4] Gwyneth van Anden Walker and John Philip Sousa.

Musical settings of "In Memoriam A.H.H."
"There rolls the deep" from Tennyson's In memoriam, CXXIII set to music for S.A.T.B. by C. H. H. Parry
"Four Songs from Tennyson's In Memoriam" song cycle by Maude Valérie White (1855-1937)
"Under Alter'd Skies" song cycle by Jonathan Dove 1, Fair Ship 2, Calm Is the Morn 3, To-night the Winds Begin to Rise 4, With Weary Steps 5, Be Near Me 6, Peace, Come Away 7, Thy Voice Is on the Rolling Air

# # #

That's all that I had the time to look up. I used www.worldcat.org and searched for Alfred Lord Tennyson and then limited the results to CDs and then to Music CDs (to filter out Spoken Word CDs).

I looked hard to see if there was a list already up on the internet, but I had no luck there. If I had more time, I would have searched JSTOR for scholarly articles.

Have fun!

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Many thanks!:-) n/t, posted on May 24, 2022 at 08:46:56
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"other recordings featuring Tennyson set to music", posted on May 24, 2022 at 11:40:27
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There are probably a lot, but perhaps one of the most unusual is Franz Liszt's setting of the poem, "Go not, happy day". This was part of a birthday tribute to Tennyson where a number of different composers set the same text to music, Liszt being by far the best known of them. It's the only song Liszt ever set directly in English and it comes from his later years, when his spare, attenuated style had replaced his earlier grand (some would say grandiose) style, and it ends on an unresolved chord, which gives it an unearthly, shadowy effect like some of Liszt's other late works. I did an orchestration of this song as my final project in my orchestration class when I was a student. (This was partially because there are so many measures of rest in the piano accompaniment, so I didn't have so much to do - LOL!)

Perhaps this song wouldn't go over really well in these days of wokeness and political correctness, since the text makes reference to "the red man". But that's Tennyson's fault - not Liszt's! ;-)

The other composers who set this same text for Tennyson's birthday event included Frank Bridge and others of even lesser distinction! ;-)

Anyway, here are a couple of YouTube videos of the Liszt and Bridge settings, sung by Thomas Hampson and Felicity Lott respectively. (The Bridge setting is only a YouTube link for the reasons stated.)








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Enoch Arden - yes!, posted on May 24, 2022 at 12:09:35
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The famous Rains/Gould recording is slightly cut. I performed the work when I was a student with a soprano (another student) reciting the text. But her diction was so poor that when she first called me and proposed that we do this work, she asked me (or at least I THOUGHT she asked me!), "Do you know this piece by Richard Strauss called 'In a Garden'?". ;-)

I currently have two recordings of the work, one with Captain Picard and the other with Logan (after his run!):



John Bell Young used to participate in what is now the Google Group, rec.music.classical.recordings. He was a real nut case BTW, who sued Valentina Lisitsa in an attempt to ruin her over the comments she made about Ukraine - and this was eight years ago! He has died in the meantime - I forget what the cause of death was. In any case, it ended the court case against Lisitsa.

There's also a new recording (released just in the last month or so) of the work on the Somm label:



I haven't heard it yet.

 

Don't forget the recording of Enoch Arden by Bernie Madoff!:-)..., posted on May 25, 2022 at 06:28:13
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Nah...just a funny resemblance thing (this one is amazingly close)!

There is a recording of Enoch Arden by Vickers with a young Marc-Andre Hamelin (!). Has anyone heard that?

 

I've seen the Vickers/Hamelin recording - haven't heard it though [nt], posted on May 25, 2022 at 10:57:57
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Hurwitz liked it but, more than that..., posted on May 25, 2022 at 11:28:21
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there is a compelling review in the Montreal Gazette. It CAN be obtained on CD, and obtain it I will!:-)

 

I'm sure it's great - let us know what you think, posted on May 25, 2022 at 13:49:28
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Of course, my favorite Vickers performance is as the tenor soloist in Beecham's RCA recording of Handel's Messiah! A Heldentenor in the part - exactly what it needs! ;-)

I can't remember the quote exactly, but didn't Colin Davis say something like, "Let us put Handel's superb Jehova-like god in his place!" during a recording session for his first recording of the work in the 60's (with the LSO on Philips)? Unfortunately, Davis never had a tenor like Vickers to help him do exactly that in any of his Messiah recordings (not to mention Goossens' superb Jehova-like re-orchestraion either)! ;-)

 

Vickers, posted on May 25, 2022 at 15:20:49
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I saw Vickers in the late 1970s when the Met was making national tours. He sang Otello (with Milnes; I don't remember the other singers) and Bartered Bride (he was quite funny--something I never would have expected from him.

He's still my favorite Siegfried (the Leinsdorf recording) and Otello (Serafin). And despite Britten's opinion of Vickers's changes in his part, my favorite Peter Grimes.

His "Messiah moment" is about the only part of the Beecham recording that I want to listen to.

 

Just FYI, the Vickers Enoch is 60% off from VAI Direct..., posted on May 26, 2022 at 08:28:09
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for the next couple of days.

 

Will do..., posted on May 26, 2022 at 08:30:10
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I don't know the work (yet). I'll do some comparative listening to fill out my review. Projects!:-)

 

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