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I'm trying to overcome the prejudice the saxophone is only for jazz

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Posted on November 27, 2021 at 16:30:06
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But it is hard as that instrument, well played, sounds great in a jazz setting.

However one must admire the efforts of the lovely young Dutch-German saxophonist Hannah Koob to find suitable music in the classical field. One blurb on the album illustrated says -

She dedicates herself with immense energy to play unexplored repertoire for saxophone. "Die Fremde" is a musical expedition along music that has a gloomy but evermore cheerful timbre. Virtuoso solo playing in the rarely performed The Stranger by the Dutchman Hans Kox, this is only the 2nd studio recording of the piece, in which Koob shows the extreme limits of the melodic and dynamic range of her alto saxophone. Lyricism and fluent interplay between piano and saxophone in the Partita by Erwin Dressel and compelling harmonies and ditto melody in Henk Badings' La Malinconia. Two commissioned compositions complete this energetic and infectious debut: the cinematic Andante by Leonard Küßner and Halvdager by Andreas van Zoelen, the latter in the beautiful, rarely heard combination of saxophone and harmonium.

And yes, the result is nice music on an instrument rarely heard in a chamber music context.

What can be more subjective than music? It reflects our personal tastes and preferences.

 

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IMHO Prokofiev somehow makes it work, VW? Not so much. nt, posted on November 27, 2021 at 18:03:05
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RE: I'm trying to overcome the prejudice the saxophone is only for jazz, posted on November 27, 2021 at 18:40:47
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This should help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mtDo67j0-A


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RE: I'm trying to overcome the prejudice the saxophone is only for jazz, posted on November 27, 2021 at 19:35:27
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This is a good album of works for classical saxophone featuring Ukranian saxophonist Asya Fateyeva.



She also has a number of other albums, although more with pieces originally for other instruments and arranged for saxophone.

 

What I'm aways surprised by is how highly Berlioz thought of the saxophone (as evidenced by his writings), posted on November 28, 2021 at 02:27:24
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And yet he never wrote any actual music for the instrument (at least that I know of) - I'm sure that would have been something if he did.

I have a fair number of classical saxophone recordings, all of which I enjoy very much:
Perhaps my favorite use of the saxophone in a classical work is in the middle section of the first of Rachmaninoff's Symphonic Dances - what a masterful and beautiful use of that tone color!

I've also accompanied a saxophonist in the Glazunov Saxophone Concerto, a surprising favorite of Ms. CfL (who usually thinks of Glazunov as a composer of merely decorous and pleasant music). It's a very late work however, and perhaps may not sound as facile to some listeners as his earlier music might.

Bizet has a movement (in one of his L'Arlesienne Suites) wherein he features the instrument - very beautifully, I might add

Ravel's orchestration of Mussorgsky's "Pictures" features the saxophone in "The Old Castle" movement. I find it a bit jarring and not in the style of how an actual Russian composer might orchestrate that movement, but I know many listeners enjoy its surprising use in Ravel's orchestration.

Prokofiev uses the instrument in his Lieutenant Kije Suite - I feel that Prokofiev's use of the saxophone adds some irony to the melody at that point.

There are a number of works by Ralph Vaughan Williams which use the saxophone(s), including Job, the Sixth Symphony, and the Ninth Symphony (which includes parts for two alto saxophones and a tenor saxophone). I hear RVW's use of the instrument as a conveying of a smoldering, perhaps devilish undercurrent to the sections in which they're featured.

I'm sure you know about many or all of the examples I've listed above, but, as an aside, I'll mention that there have been a number of recordings of Bach's complete Art of Fugue played by a saxophone quartet - the couple that I've heard are great fun and surprisingly expressive - especially if the sax players are brave enough to use vibrato in spite of parochial strictures against its use by self-proclaimed musical police officials! (I don't want to mention any names!) ;-)

 

An amazing list of Saxophone works in the classical genre..., posted on November 28, 2021 at 06:02:08
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It may not be "complete" but it is certainly exhaustive!:-)

The works cited do not include those in which the sax is employed sporadically for effect such as Rachmaninoff, Vaughan-Williams, etc.

 

Well it Should include them!, posted on November 28, 2021 at 07:05:23
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Rach Sym Dances is a Major Solo, entire movement of the piece.
Vaugn Williams wrote a big Alto part in Job, and used 3 saxes in one Symphony.
That alone is unusual.

 

Tha List is all Solos/Concerti. What about use as part of the Orchestra?, posted on November 28, 2021 at 07:08:40
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That's much more interesting to me.
And then there's the Sax Quartet, great Chamber Music combination!

 

Hmm, Clarence Thomas? (RIP), posted on November 28, 2021 at 18:18:06
and the E Street band. Springsteen and E Street did great and Clarence's sax was crucial to their sound.

 

RE: OOPS, forgot I was in classical forum, posted on November 28, 2021 at 18:18:47
:) My bad.

 

RE: OOPS, forgot I was in classical forum, posted on November 28, 2021 at 18:25:35
you forgot more than that unless a Supreme Court judge died

of course you meant Clarence Clemons ; )

 

RE: OOPS, forgot I was in classical forum, posted on November 28, 2021 at 18:32:53
Opps again, too much Vino tonight! :)

 

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