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Rainy Day Nielsen Immersion: Ole Schmidt and the LSO

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Posted on November 18, 2020 at 17:38:45



Around 20 (yikes!) years ago I acquired my first Nielsen: the 4th and 5th symphonies with Blomstedt/SFO on Decca. I didn't "get" the point behind either symphony, and who can like a composer who doesn't include harps, at least in his symphonies! (I know, but Brahms.) The CD was placed upon my shelf between Mussorgsky and Novak and forgotten.

Last year I purchased the Oramo 4th and 5th on BIS, very well-received, but it didn't do anything for me either. No "intestinal fortitude", or "torque". Strings thin in the pastoral opening of the 5th's second mov't. Deleted.

A few months ago while driving I heard the lead-up and climax to the slow mov't of the 1st on the radio and was bowled over. Wow! It turned out to be Nielsen. Who knew?

I finally got a chance to download Previn's "classic" K. Wilkinson recording of the 1st from HDTT. Speaking of just the slow mov't, Previn is irresistibly ardent, and it was impossible not to fall for those feverish string portamenti in the lead up, (repeated twice). That said, the LSO horns are a bit wobbly at critical points, (those forte downward chromatic slides) and although the recording is good, it's a bit rougher and constricted at times compared to the Previn Walton 1st, which is IMHO is still an engineering stunner, IMHO.

So while reading reviews and comparing prices, I eventually decided upon Ole Schmidt's 70s recordings (by the Auger bros.) of the complete symphonies on Unicorn, reissued by Alto, for an amazing $8 bucks, at Qobuz.

I've listened to the 1st, 3rd and 5th so far. That's all the quality conversation I could take from a "partner" without getting down to activities that, shall we say, more "sensual" realms, post 1st Symphony at least. Listening to Nielsen is like watching a mate put together an IKEA bookcase: it's fascinating, suspenseful and not without release and catharsis, but where's IS the tingly celesta, rolling bass drum and harpist's upward glissandi as the cabinet is finally erected to the thwack of a gong??

The sound and playing is much better than Previn's British Dog production. The LSO horns are much steadier and whoop with abandon. Strings are sweet. Brass snarl. Nice ambience. Only the low brass are a bit weak at points, which weakens the power of Nielsen's counterpoint. Just a bit. I you listen for them, they're there.

I look forward to hearing the 2nd, 6th for the very first time, on the next rainy day. If there is one. I've hired a harpist to ad lib. : )






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Not a Nielsen fan at all myself, but I've got that Previn recording of No. 1, posted on November 19, 2020 at 11:01:08
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I think that the reason his First Symphony appeals more to me is that it's a more derivative work, and he hadn't completely found "his" style yet. And in Nielsen's case, "his" style does not appeal at all to me - in some works, he even seems to be veering towards the type of stupidity one hears in the music of Shostakovich! (However, as always with Shostakovich, "Song of the Forests" and "The Sun Shines over our Motherland" are excepted from that generality!)

BTW, the soprano on Blomstedt's SF recording of the Nielsen Third, Nancy Wait Kromm, is a singer whom I used to accompany during our student days. She always had a beautiful voice, but with more audible breath in the tone than many other singers exhibited. However, I was surprised when I heard that Nielsen recording that the breath in her tone was not audible at all - so either she refined her singing technique, or the Decca engineers had a way of capturing just the tone and not the breath. In any case, she was a very nice girl and a wonderful singer. She ended up teaching at the University of Santa Clara - I don't know if she's retired now or still there. I heard that Santa Clara has really diluted the funding of the classical offerings within their music department because of various demands from the "identity politics" wing of the faculty there.

 

listened to numbers1, 2 and 3 last night on QOBUZ, posted on November 20, 2020 at 17:48:36
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and in one setting straight through.

Do I get a prize?


First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: listened to numbers1, 2 and 3 last night on QOBUZ, posted on November 20, 2020 at 20:31:55
No prize unless you summon the courage to actually state your opinion.

 

I think Ivan should get a participation prize, no matter what! [nt] ;-), posted on November 21, 2020 at 00:14:09
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That's pretty much how I got through school...., posted on November 21, 2020 at 06:41:17
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Graduated based on 'attendance'.

That and a cap purchased in the Sanford book store. :-)


First they came for the dumb-asses
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Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: listened to numbers1, 2 and 3 last night on QOBUZ, posted on November 21, 2020 at 06:50:09
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You get a prize!

I've never heard the Schmidt recordings, but definitely check out Bernstein's Sony recordings of Nielsen. Also, the Martinon/CSO recording of the 4th.

 

Only really spent time with the Blomstedt set...., posted on November 21, 2020 at 11:45:51
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and certainly not all of them.

But I will say that the Schmidt series is not boring. He ertainly takes this music seriously.




First they came for the dumb-asses
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I'm not sure, but I think I saw that the Stanford Alumni Association. . . , posted on November 21, 2020 at 11:58:38
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. . . is once again offering Stanford Alumni email accounts to non-Stanford graduates - if you offer them a big enough donation! ;-)

(Or. . . one could always bribe the crew coach, a la Felicity Huffman, to get in - or get your kid in!)

 

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