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So, after listening to Brendel play some Mozart Concertos...

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Posted on June 4, 2020 at 13:30:25
popsy
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 I am interested in the best sounding complete Mozart Concertos CD Box...interpretation is not as important as is the sound quality..

thanks as always!

 

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If you mean COMPLETE Mozart (Piano) Concertos, that's a hard question!, posted on June 4, 2020 at 14:30:41
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 The only hi-rez complete sets are Brautigam (HIP - ugh!) or Zacharias (with SQ which is OK but not spectacular - at least on the example I heard).

Basically, I'm stumped to give you an answer on that score.

If you confine yourself to CD's, I don't have a preference among complete sets.

 

Yeah, complete sets and confining myself to CD or hyrbrid SACD's, posted on June 4, 2020 at 14:34:27
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 So sound quality amongst Brendel/Perahia/Anda/Barenboim/Uchida etc...is all about the same then?

 

I'm going to disqualify myself here, posted on June 4, 2020 at 14:41:57
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 I don't feel as if I have enough experience with all these different complete sets.

This is one set of works where I'm very much of a non-completist. ;-)

 

HIP-ugh, you have coined a new word!, posted on June 4, 2020 at 14:45:06
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 I envisage a large water-dwelling mammal that eschews vibrato.

 

well SIGH.....:) Thanks for heads up though, posted on June 4, 2020 at 14:47:38
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RE: Yeah, complete sets and confining myself to CD or hyrbrid SACD's, posted on June 5, 2020 at 05:15:03
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 Why get a complete set? You'll find soon enough that there are other recordings that better some of the concertos in whichever set you've bought.

I don't like Uchida's set with Tate; the performances are neat and tidy, but the passion is missing. She later recorded a bunch of these concertos with Cleveland Orchestra, and these are much better (but not a complete set).

I have Perahia's set. I like it, and the sound is good. You can hear everything clearly, which is essential in Mozart.

I also like many of the Brendel/Marriner performances, all of them with very good sound.

Kirschnereit's complete set is a different "take" on this music that I enjoy. The orchestra sound BIG.

 

RE: So, after listening to Brendel play some Mozart Concertos..., posted on June 5, 2020 at 07:14:27
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 As far as currently complete sets, I really like the Askenazy set on London/Decca where he conducts the Philharmonia Orchestra from the keyboard. Very good sound though it's standard CD resolution. Not a fan of Peraiah's set - a bit too straight-laced and unimaginative for me.

There is an unfolding set on Chandos in great sound (though, unfortunately not in SACD) with Jean Effram Bazouvet. I have all of the CD's so far (6 volumes) and they are very good performances in wonderful sound. I imaging it will be completed over the next couple of years - maybe Chandos will issue a box in the future.

I had high hopes for a series with Martin Helmchen on Pentatone SACD but, alas, it seems only two SACD's were issued. No others have been forthcoming. That could have been a hi-rez benchmark had it continued.

 

Forgot about Bavouzet, posted on June 5, 2020 at 14:24:37
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 The nice thing about those albums in the Mozart/Bavouzet series on Chandos is that they all seem to be available as stereo 24/96 downloads at the Chandos site (although I'm seeing only five volumes right now - maybe the sixth will be along presently?), so at least they're hi-rez. And I hardly ever feel that the Chandos engineers have miscalculated in their microphone "strategies" in the last couple of decades (especially if you like a "big" enveloping sound - but with clarity still maintained). I agree with you that the Bavouzet set might be the one to go for, even though it's incomplete so far.

 

David Hurwitz just weighed in on this topic..., posted on June 5, 2020 at 14:51:15
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 Thought you might like to hear him expound on this topic. No mention of Ashkenazy's set (no surprise - its an underdog). His #1 set is Schiff/Vegh and he discusses a bunch of others.

 

RE: David Hurwitz just weighed in on this topic..., posted on June 6, 2020 at 01:07:35
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 But if the OP is interested in SQ, some of ol' Dave's comments in the past make me wonder sometimes about what kind of system he's listening through. Anyone know if he's ever come clean and put his system out for people to throw darts at?

BTW, at least he doesn't like Barenboim! ;-)

(Although I must say that, for me, Barenboim's Mozart playing is some of his least objectionable!) ;-)

 

Well, went with the Kirschnereit/Beerman release so we shall see.., posted on June 6, 2020 at 10:22:03
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I don't know that set at all, and I don't even know the pianist at all, but. . . , posted on June 6, 2020 at 11:38:16
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 . . . I've been VERY impressed by the conductor (Frank Beerman) in his SACD set of the Schumann symphonies (really one of the absolute top versions IMHO). Let us know how you like the Mozart set when you get it.

 

Will do, sorry that i posted my reply in error to your reply :), posted on June 6, 2020 at 11:53:34
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RE: Well, went with the Kirschnereit/Beerman release so we shall see.., posted on June 6, 2020 at 13:40:56
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 I have the Kirschnereit/Beeman set. Excellent sound. A BIG orchestra. Kirschnereit is creative and musical without constantly drawing attention to himself (as in, "Look what I'm doing, isn't that interesting?").

This would not have been my first choice as a complete set, but it's a different view that I enjoy when contrasted with some of the more mainline performances of Mozart concertos.

 

That's the great thing about the era we're living in today, posted on June 6, 2020 at 14:08:17
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 These unheralded musicians come out of the woodwork from seemingly nowhere, and produce wonderful performances!

 

More Kirschnereit, posted on June 6, 2020 at 14:15:44
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 I picked up the Kirschnereit Mozrt concertos in a discounted box while shopping with a friend at Daedalus Books--very happy with them.

And I bought a 24/88.2 (stereo) download of Kirschnereit and the Amaryllis Quartet in a wonderful performance of the Brahms Piano Quintet; Brahms third piano conata was also part of the purchase, but I haven't listened to it in a while.

 

We just listened to Kirschnereit's Mozart No. 16 in D maj, K. 451, posted on June 7, 2020 at 01:32:10
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 This was via Qobuz this past afternoon - it sounded great to me! Ms. CfL knows this concerto very well, having grown up with with the Anda/DG performance as her imprint version - she liked Kirschnereit (at least in this concerto) better than she did Geza!

 

RE: Well, went with the Kirschnereit/Beerman release so we shall see.., posted on June 7, 2020 at 17:18:02
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 Nice recommendation, I am listening to #21 now on Qobuz and liking it a lot.

Thanks,
13DoW

 

RE: David Hurwitz just weighed in on this topic..., posted on June 8, 2020 at 06:21:24
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RE Perahia set . . ., posted on June 13, 2020 at 17:05:33
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 I am bothered by it somewhat, too, though I'm not sure that "straight-laced" is how I'd characterize why. I might prefer "controlling", but I'm not sure that's entirely right either. I must say, nevertheless, that I often very much like Perahia, just not to much within this box.

Jeremy

 

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