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Currentzis Verdi Requiem

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Posted on May 27, 2020 at 18:12:36
Berrell88
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 A few weeks ago I lambasted this conductor's interpretation of Beethoven's 5th and Sony's muddied engineering in addition to releasing a cd of only 31 minutes consisting of this old warhorse.

Let's put that aside. No ad hominems ever intended. You must listen to his band's performances of the Requiem. I found a radio download of a live performance in Brussels last spring and it holds its own against any performance from Solti, Giulini,even De Sabata and Toscanini. Yes, it's that compelling. And he doesn't rush. It's about 83 minutes.

Riveting,spiritual, well paced, strong (no name) soloists and the Perm choir. This was part of a barnstorming tour of Europe with multiple concerts and one in NYC last year and the tight, ensemble playing exudes drama and precision. It sure doesn't sound like original instruments either. No doubt a cd is inevitable.

 

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My experience is that "Original Instruments" are, posted on May 28, 2020 at 08:55:34
oldmkvi
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 Modern re-creations.
I don't think, or at least hope that nobody is playing on a 300 year old Clarinet...

 

I hope not too - but I fear the worst! [nt] ;-), posted on May 28, 2020 at 09:42:24
Chris from Lafayette
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RE: My experience is that "Original Instruments" are, posted on May 28, 2020 at 14:24:41
pbarach
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 Wind instruments wear out, but they can be recreated in the modern day and played alongside 300-year-old stringed instruments and modern copies thereof.

I really enjoy the recordings of 19th century and early 20th century music by Les Siecles. They are using "original instruments" as described in the above paragraph.

 

I have a Roger Norrington CD of Schubert Symphonies, sounds great to me., posted on May 29, 2020 at 07:09:07
oldmkvi
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 Let me put on my Flame Retardant Gear...

 

Early 20th Century?, posted on May 29, 2020 at 07:16:26
oldmkvi
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 Most are much earlier, Baroque, Classical, Early Romantic.
The retired Bass Clarinetist with the SF Symphony played a Buffet Bass Clar from 1901 all his career, into the 2000's.
Was a great sounding horn.
To me, Original Instruments implies something Older, cruder in design, with a rather different sound from Modern Inst.
Thinner, reedier.
I liked the Woodwinds on the Norrington CD, tho.

 

RE: Early 20th Century?, posted on May 29, 2020 at 16:34:12
Berrell88
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 Gentlemen,

My intent in opening up this apparent can of original worms was not to praise or condemn HIP but to laud Currentzis for a very gripping and memorable performance of the Messa da Requiem. He is capable of making great music apparently when the score suits his talent. Dats it.

 

And yet you yourself said. . ., posted on May 29, 2020 at 17:30:34
Chris from Lafayette
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 . . . that "Original Instruments implies something Older, cruder in design". So, if Norrington's Schubert sounds "great", what was/is the appeal of [S]norrington and the LCP for you? Not flaming (yet)! ;-)

 

RE: And yet you yourself said. . ., posted on May 30, 2020 at 07:17:49
oldmkvi
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 The modern re-creations are a similar design, but with
Modern materials.
As I understand it.

 

RE: Currentzis Verdi Requiem, posted on May 30, 2020 at 11:29:19
Mel
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 He conducts the work with the Berlin Philharmonic on their pay site using his own chorus.

For a while they were giving out free Covid-19 2 week passes. I don't know if they still are.

 

I enjoyed that one............., posted on May 30, 2020 at 12:58:09
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 despite my prejudice against him.

 

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