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Component video cable for audio IC ?

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Posted on January 28, 2016 at 15:05:34

Ross
Audiophile

Posts: 1814
Joined: January 24, 2000

Used high end component video cable is virtually worthless in a world of HDMI.

Can component video cable become a source for high quality DIY audio IC or are the electrical considerations too disimilar ?

Best, Ross

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Ross

10:59:48 01/31/16

RE: Component video cable for audio IC ?

Jon Risch

21:41:34 01/30/16

Something like this

Ross

20:07:32 01/28/16

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Ross

10:59:48 01/31/16

RE: Component video cable for audio IC ?

Jon Risch

21:41:34 01/30/16

Something like this

Ross

20:07:32 01/28/16

RE: Something like this

Duster

21:15:41 01/28/16

RE: Component video cable for audio IC ?

dirtyvinyl

16:57:42 01/28/16

RE: Component video cable for audio IC ?

Duster

15:57:10 01/28/16

I'm trying out a couple of different component cables.

mt10425

10:47:37 01/29/16

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables.

Duster

11:43:09 01/29/16

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables.

mt10425

14:27:55 01/29/16

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables.

Duster

14:32:39 01/29/16

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables.

mt10425

14:58:39 01/29/16

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables.

Duster

15:15:14 01/29/16

They look like those.

mt10425

15:31:46 01/29/16

RE: They look like those.

Duster

15:55:38 01/29/16

mt10425

16:11:52 01/29/16

Vampire 557-Y RCA Video Connector

Duster

16:35:18 01/29/16

mt10425

17:07:32 01/29/16

Nothing personal.

Duster

17:21:18 01/29/16

It's always personal

mt10425

17:47:00 01/29/16

Duster

17:52:31 01/29/16

mt10425

17:58:16 01/29/16

Get a grip, or risk a flame war.

Duster

20:12:06 01/29/16

mt10425

17:29:42 01/29/16

RE: Component video cable for audio IC ?, posted on January 28, 2016 at 15:57:10
Duster Manufacturer Posts: 17117 Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: August 25, 2002	It depends on the video cable design. What particular make/model video cable do you have in mind?

RE: Component video cable for audio IC ?, posted on January 28, 2016 at 16:57:42

dirtyvinyl

I've found component video cable a great back up for phono or the CD deck.

YMMV, I'm guessing the extra shielding required for video signals is right inline for decent audio hookups? Frankly, the $20 Best Buy video cable I used for my table wasn't bad compared to the name brand $$ "phono cable" that I just had to have. I wouldn't be surprised the degree of "incorrectness" varies with brands.
It was just different in its presentation and certainly didn't look cool like the fancy one I have now.

I still use them for my cheap tuner which sounds great, just not Marantz 10B great!

Something like this, posted on January 28, 2016 at 20:07:32

Ross
Audiophile

Posts: 1814
Joined: January 24, 2000

Kimber Kable. described as RG6 75 ohm. No connection to seller etc etc.

Thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KIMBER-KABLE-ILLUMINATIONS-DV30-VIDE

RE: Something like this, posted on January 28, 2016 at 21:15:41
Duster Manufacturer Posts: 17117 Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: August 25, 2002	Kimber Kable Illuminations DV-30 should perform well for a line-level application, but it's better implemented for a 75 ohm application.

I'm trying out a couple of different component cables., posted on January 29, 2016 at 10:47:37
mt10425 Audiophile Posts: 2399 Location: 3 hours west of Chicago Joined: January 23, 2004	As phono cables. I have a set of Vampire Wire and Synergistic Research and another brand I can't identify to compare against my MAC Silver and Neotech 30001 cables. "It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables., posted on January 29, 2016 at 11:43:09
Duster Manufacturer Posts: 17117 Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: August 25, 2002	I look forward to your report in Cable Asylum.

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables., posted on January 29, 2016 at 14:27:55

mt10425
Audiophile

Posts: 2399
Location: 3 hours west of Chicago
Joined: January 23, 2004

The Synergistic Research was not much different than any other other I/C. There was the same fuzzy vocal, diffuse soundstage. Now, as far as the Vampire Wire, there is a clarity and very neutral tone and soundstage. There is not as much depth but appropriate width and players being where they belong. It's interesting how there's no extra bass, midrange or highs. Neutral is.subjective but, this is as close as I've heard.

"It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables., posted on January 29, 2016 at 14:32:39
Duster Manufacturer Posts: 17117 Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: August 25, 2002	What model is the Vampire Wire cables?

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables., posted on January 29, 2016 at 14:58:39
mt10425 Audiophile Posts: 2399 Location: 3 hours west of Chicago Joined: January 23, 2004	I tried to provide a pic. However, no luck. The cable says USA CG SERIES OFC VIDEOI. It's a fairly thin blue cable. "It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

RE: I'm trying out a couple of different component cables., posted on January 29, 2016 at 15:15:14

Duster
Manufacturer

Posts: 17117
Location: Pacific Northwest
Joined: August 25, 2002

Is this the same cable, with the same rca connectors?

See link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281919280051?rmvSB=true

They look like those., posted on January 29, 2016 at 15:31:46
mt10425 Audiophile Posts: 2399 Location: 3 hours west of Chicago Joined: January 23, 2004	I can hear vocals clearly and the soundstage is solid. I never even considered component video cables in this way. Obviously, things are not absolute regarding cables. "It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

RE: They look like those., posted on January 29, 2016 at 15:55:38
Duster Manufacturer Posts: 17117 Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: August 25, 2002	The Vampire cable should perform well for audio applications, but that Vampire rca connector is poor sounding, IME. That particular model rca connector is intended for video applications, not audio. If you wish to experiment, I recommend re-terminating the cables with audiophile quality rca connectors. It would be a worthwhile expense.

I suggest, posted on January 29, 2016 at 16:11:52
mt10425 Audiophile Posts: 2399 Location: 3 hours west of Chicago Joined: January 23, 2004	you listen to them. Most of the Vampire connectors get pretty good reviews. I'm interested in your take after you test them against your everyday phono cables.. "It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

Vampire 557-Y RCA Video Connector, posted on January 29, 2016 at 16:35:18

Duster
Manufacturer

Posts: 17117
Location: Pacific Northwest
Joined: August 25, 2002

Image: Vampire 557-Y RCA Video Connector

I've already listened to the audio performance capability of the Vampire 557-Y rca video connector.

So I'm very familiar with the sonic signature of it, based on direct experience. It's not an audiophile quality connector, IMO.

See link:

http://www.vampirewire.com/#!product-page/c20v7/7fae4d29-916

You're invited , posted on January 29, 2016 at 17:07:32
mt10425 Audiophile Posts: 2399 Location: 3 hours west of Chicago Joined: January 23, 2004	to my home to listen for yourself. I'll cook a nice meal for you. You can meet my family and tell us all how we are listening to the wrong cables. "It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

Nothing personal., posted on January 29, 2016 at 17:21:18
Duster Manufacturer Posts: 17117 Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: August 25, 2002	Just giving good advice, IME. The Vampire cable features OCC copper likely made by Neotech. It deserves a better rca connector than the Vampire 557-Y for an audio application. 'nuff said

All I ask, posted on January 29, 2016 at 17:29:42
mt10425 Audiophile Posts: 2399 Location: 3 hours west of Chicago Joined: January 23, 2004	is that you listen before you judge. "It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

It's always personal, posted on January 29, 2016 at 17:47:00
mt10425 Audiophile Posts: 2399 Location: 3 hours west of Chicago Joined: January 23, 2004	We're all trying to help but, you always seem to want to be the first/last word regarding cables. Much of what you offer is from the bleachers, not from the playing field. I hesitate helping others because you negate real experience with IME. "It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

That's absurd., posted on January 29, 2016 at 17:52:31
Duster Manufacturer Posts: 17117 Location: Pacific Northwest Joined: August 25, 2002	I am offended by your attitude and accusation. I am very experienced and don't speak from the bleachers. I won't defend my credibility nor my sincerity as a participant in Audio Asylum.

Get over it, posted on January 29, 2016 at 17:58:16
mt10425 Audiophile Posts: 2399 Location: 3 hours west of Chicago Joined: January 23, 2004	You act like the know-it-all of cables. "It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

Get a grip, or risk a flame war., posted on January 29, 2016 at 20:12:06

Duster
Manufacturer

Posts: 17117
Location: Pacific Northwest
Joined: August 25, 2002

Duster wrote:

"...If you wish to experiment, I recommend re-terminating the cables with audiophile quality rca connectors. It would be a worthwhile expense."

What part of my informed opinion seems like that of a know-it-all?

Audio Asylum is intended as a forum where folks can post their various findings without personal hostility from other posters. I simply responded with basic advice. You are way out of line, mt10425.

Duster

RE: Component video cable for audio IC ?, posted on January 30, 2016 at 21:41:34

Jon Risch
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Joined: April 4, 2000
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Component video cable has different requirements for high performance than audio cables, some aspects overlap, others have no relevance from one to the other.

Basically, you can "get away" with certain materials and construction compromises on a video cable that are not acceptable for a high performance audio cable.

That said, some video cables intended for commercial video use can make an excellent audio cable, mainly through the happenstance of good materials and decent construction from an audio standpoint.

Belden 89259 is a good example.

For more along these lines, see:
The skinny on RG-6 coaxial cables for audio:
http://www.AudioAsylum.com/audio/cables/messages/25155.html

See also:

http://www.geocities.ws/jonrisch/i1.htm

Jon Risch

Exec Summary Of Replies:, posted on January 31, 2016 at 10:59:48
Ross Audiophile Posts: 1814 Joined: January 24, 2000	Video cable will pass a line level audio signal, but it is not the best solution Thansk all.

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