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Power cords on the used market:$400-$600

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Posted on November 21, 2015 at 21:19:43
Tidycat1
 Hello, I made the common mistake of substituting another power cord for a stock cord.Now I am looking to upgrade some PCs in the $4-600 range on the used market.
Any experience with these power cords or a brand that I should consider??
Please state the application and sonic results, good or bad.
(1) Shunyata Black Mambo CX
(2)Acoustic Zen Krakatoa
(3) ElectraGlide Ultra Khan
Thank you,I do truly appreciate any assistance.

 

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RE: Power cords on the used market:$400-$600, posted on November 22, 2015 at 18:52:02
Tidycat1
 Still looking.
A lot of the Harmonic Technology Fantasy 3s.No Lessloss and very few Furutech power cords.
Can anyone comment on the basic Synergistic cord or Cardas Golden Reference??
I had a chance to listen to the Fusion Magic.It made the digital sound very good on the Pass XVR-1.Switching back to analog revealed that it was too warm for that application.Have moved them to the digital:MSB transport and Z-systems.

 

Avoid The Cardas GR Powercord, posted on November 22, 2015 at 20:03:50
Luminator
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Location: Bay Area
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 If you want to stick a dull, fat wooden pencil into your ears, get the Cardas Golden Reference powercord. Awful. Using an audiodharma Cable Cooker helps, but at the same time, only reinforces how bad this powercord is.

It's like commissioning Michelangelo to paint the Sistine Chapel, but only giving him a kindergartener's used, dull, and unsharpened set of 8 Crayola jumbo crayons.

-Lummy The Loch Monster

 

RE: Power cords on the used market:$400-$600, posted on November 23, 2015 at 03:17:31
plugmein
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Posts: 304
Location: mother-earth
Joined: March 4, 2007
 I've had great luck with a nanotec cable that uses the top of the line Furutech plugs (FI-50). The plugs alone sell for $400 plus but you can buy these cords for under $500 new. Do a search here on Audioasylum Trader.
I've used on them pre-amps, power amps even digital.

 

IF you can find any TG Audio SLVR..., posted on November 23, 2015 at 10:00:14
musetap
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Location: San Francisco
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Contributor
  Since: January 28, 2004
 don't pass 'em up.

Seriously.

Have used them in all applications to as satisfying results as possible.

In my experience they are sublime.


"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

RE: Power cords on the used market:$400-$600, posted on November 23, 2015 at 13:15:50
Demo
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Posts: 320
Location: Kansas
Joined: May 24, 2000
 Triode Wire Labs. I use one on my Unico and think it's very good. Check out the TWL Forum on Audio Circle for many positive comments.

 

the new TG cords are considerably better, posted on November 23, 2015 at 17:45:41
rhyno
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 Frank is doing fine work having taken over for bob crump (RIP buddy)

 

Acrolink 7N-P4030ii with Oyaide Connectors, posted on November 24, 2015 at 00:08:55
Joe Appierto
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Location: Central NJ
Joined: January 3, 2004
 Depending on the length you require and the type of Oyaide connector that suits your preferences, this may fall in the price range you state for a brand new power cord. A vendor such as Audio Excellence AZ has a variety of Oyaide connectors (4 according to Alan Kafton's web site) that would allow you to tailor the sound to your specific preferences. His power cords are double cryogenically treated and then conditioned for 6 days on his Cable Cooker.

No affiliation with the seller other than as a very satisfied customer of his.

Joe

 

I just bought 2 more Nanotec ac cables, posted on November 24, 2015 at 08:31:38
plugmein
Audiophile

Posts: 304
Location: mother-earth
Joined: March 4, 2007
 yes there are better but you have to spend 3 x as much!

 

RE: I just bought 2 more Nanotec ac cables, posted on November 24, 2015 at 20:51:39
Tidycat1
 Have found two Black Mambos to purchase.
Have also exchanged e-mails with Frank @TG.Will update as things progress.
Thanks to any and all that have responded.

 

Power cords on the used market:$400-$600, posted on November 25, 2015 at 11:20:56
Steelhead
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Posts: 863
Location: AK
Joined: December 11, 2003
 I would second the Triode Wire Labs recommendation. They are within your budget new which is cool.

They come cooked and you have 30 days to try them in your system and compare with what you have. If they do not float your boat send them back for a full refund. Your only out for a small postage fee.

I do not have any experience with the ones you listed so no help there.

Have Fun.

 

RE: Power cords on the used market:$400-$600, posted on November 25, 2015 at 20:41:28
Tidycat1
 Has anyone any experience with either of these:
(1) TG/Franks' new 10.5 ga PCs-SLVR or 688
(2) Digital PC from TWL,maybe as compared to the 7+
As always,many thanks in advance for any offerings.

 

RE: Power cords on the used market:$400-$600, posted on November 28, 2015 at 20:29:19
Tidycat1
 It is amazing to me,just how many cable companies have sprung up.
They have a website,e-mail address and offer your money-back policies.
But..no phone number,no formal address.
Now you pay your money and hopefully,when you return them (if you do))there is still someone there to return the funds.
And yet still,there are those that don't even have pictures of their products.Maybe a price list.
Should this fill the perspective customer with any confidence.

 

RE: Power cords on the used market:$400-$600, posted on November 29, 2015 at 06:59:48
fantja
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Posts: 15519
Location: Alabama
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 Amazing indeed. There exists a plethora of Cable companies, most of which, I will never get a chance to demo...

 

RE: Avoid The Cardas GR Powercord, posted on November 29, 2015 at 07:00:26
fantja
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Location: Alabama
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 I concur w/ Lummy- the Cardas is rolled off on both ends of the spectrum.

 

Pangea AC9, posted on December 3, 2015 at 12:40:53
sbrians
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Joined: March 4, 2002
 The AC9 has dramatically improved anything I used it on (especially power amps, but even sources). I highly recommend trying those. I have not heard the SE version.
The AC14 is worse than stock on everything that I tried it on.
I have tried both models on 2 different systems with similar results. The improvements from the AC9s (7 gauge) are amazing.

 

RE: Pangea AC9, posted on December 4, 2015 at 20:53:53
Tidycat1
 I believe that publishing products that you are considering buying is a mistake.Each of my original considerations vanished within a day or two.
I have decided not to pursue some of the others,as there is little response on them after their recommendation.Also observing them in the classifieds and their prices have been "reduced" several times.Many of the "also-rans" don't command enough interest and I hate buying products that I may never be able to resell.
I have (2) Fusion Magic and (2) Black Mambo CX in house,along with the High Fidelity CT-1 PC.
I have a few Frey 2s coming in to audition and will proceed from there.
Can anyone give me a "basic flavor" on the CT-1 MKII PC? It was kind of a no-brainer when mated with the HF IC on the phono,but if the Nordost sounds better in that application I will be looking to implement it somewhere else.

 

Pangea is OK, posted on December 5, 2015 at 12:38:30
driver
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Location: Henrico, VA
Joined: May 8, 2004
 Every application is going to be different, even if two people have identical gear because both the room & the power is going to be different.

I tried something like 75 sets of cables (power, spkr & IC) before I settled on ones I liked and even since that time, I've made small adjustments.

 

RE: Pangea is OK, posted on December 10, 2015 at 06:34:53
Tidycat1
 I am getting good results.I bought two Shunyata Black Mambas,one a CX and the other a CX/HC.These went on the Ayre pre and x250 bass amp respectively.Very nice and exactly what I would expect to hear per the reviews.-turbo-charged.
The High Fidelity is a no-brainer.Every time I return to it,it is just that much more natural.Similar to the IC,no hype.Makes the recording venue more palpable and performers sound like they are together on a stage.By contrast the AU24e IC sounded 2D.Slightly more articulate,but in the end much preferred the HFs.
The biggest surprise was the Fusion Audio Magic Rhodium and Gold versions of this PC.A little too warm on the crossover and amps.But on the digital it was "magic".Articulate with appropriate warmth,slightly more so on the Gold.It has the largest soundstage and similar to the HFs,a dimensionality to the soundstage and performers upon it.Very good bloom and decay.Just the right touch.I would be curious to hear a set made with the Wattgate connectors.
As I understand it,these were designed using strictly digital sources and suits that medium to a "T".Very impressive.
I have some Analysis Plus Oval 2s that will pass through and a pair of Nordost Frey2s.These will be tried on the remaining pieces(pre/line,crossover and a pair of monoblocks).
I will update my findings as things progress.

 

Elrod, posted on December 11, 2015 at 00:12:43
Justlisten2
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 From my experiences, I still can't find anything that beats the older Elrod EPS-2/3 Signatures in that price range (in my system, to my ears).

 

RE: Elrod, posted on December 28, 2015 at 21:15:58
Tidycat1
 Hearing the Shunyata cables (CX0 in my system has been an eye-opener.Has also lead me to experiment with the upper CXs.Excellent on the amplification portion of the system (mine,any ways).Now using them on the Ayre pre,Pass XVR-1 and X250 and Red Dragon Leviathon monos.Significantly dropped the noise floor and allowing very nice low-level resolution of detail (ambience/room reflection,over-tone structure and has turned the bass into a servo-like affair.Big jump in bass SQ going from the BM/HC to an Anaconda.Soundstage dimensions have expanded.Even allowing imaging forward of the speaker placement.
As great as all this sounds,I did not like them as much on the "source" components.Still preferring the High Fidelity CT-1 and Omega Mikro PPCs.
The CT-1 is very transparent,but a little subdued in comparison with the OMs.The OMs have a little more intimacy and air.Depending on the sonic balance of the system,one could go either way and be happy.
I will be experimenting with these two cables on the phono stage,along with comparing the CT-1 IC and Crystal cables to see which is most involving and musical.I also plan to experiment with these two ICs running from the DAC to the Ayre.
The Purist is slightly romantic,not a bad thing on digital.Too much so with the sonic balance of the Kiseki.Thus the Crystal Cable experiment.

 

RE: Elrod, posted on January 9, 2016 at 21:44:33
Tidycat1
 The Omega Mikro is my favorite on source components.
Replacing the High Fidelity CT-1 with the OM PPC made a huge difference.I had felt that the Crystal Cable was a bit over-bearing on the top-end.Not true with the OM PC.It made the race between the CT-1 IC and CC IC a close battle.The CT has more beauty,the CC Micro still has a touch of warmth,but its' transient nature surpasses the CT.Dependent on your choice of music,one might prefer either.Will keep both,as they are just an input away.
The CT-1 PC will probably be moved over to the digital,in place of one of the Fusion PCs>>MSB/Z-Systems/Blue Circle.

 

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