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Cable re-break in?

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Posted on September 29, 2015 at 19:42:20

dave123456@mail.com
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Location: Orange County, California
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I have a pair of anti-cables that have been collecting dust in my closet for the last few years. I will need to cut off the spades on one side so the cable can be connected to my Nad 372. Since my cables have been chilling for so long, and I will be cutting off the spades on one end, is there going to be another "break in" process?

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Duster

13:29:35 10/01/15

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wiggy924

19:26:18 10/01/15

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alan m. kafton

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jedrider

11:11:34 09/30/15

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Luminator

09:03:28 09/30/15

Just re-cooked my cables last week

Barry

17:56:44 09/30/15

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David Pritchard

18:28:04 09/30/15

It's the Hagerman Frykleaner

Dave Pogue

16:20:44 10/06/15

+1 Frycorder n/t

tweakmenow

20:39:48 10/05/15

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Mick Wolfe

14:16:37 09/30/15

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20:55:50 09/29/15

RE: Cable re-break in?, posted on September 29, 2015 at 20:55:50
ahendler Audiophile Posts: 5151 Location: San Antonio, Texas Joined: January 24, 2003	Was there a breakin when they were new? Why do people worry about breakin? Hook them up and listen to the music. They will probably sound good and maybe they might improve but since cables are so system dependent only you can tell Alan

RE: Cable re-break in?, posted on September 30, 2015 at 09:03:28

Luminator
Audiophile

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Location: Bay Area
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If we have not used a proper cable burn-in device (good examples include the audiodharma Cable Cooker, Hagerman Fry products, and Nordost VIDAR), then our cable, no matter how many years of regular use it has seen, is NOT burned-in.

I know several audiophiles, who like to re-Cook their cables. Some of them put these previously-treated cables on the full 4- to 6-day treatment. When I re-Cook cables, I find that an overnight charge is all that is needed.

I have had many of my own (previously-Cooked) cables re-terminated. The re-terminated cables, on account of using new materials, get the full 4-day treatment.

-Lummy The Loch Monster

RE: Cable re-break in?, posted on September 30, 2015 at 11:11:34
jedrider Audiophile Posts: 15168 Location: No. California Joined: December 26, 2003	I just sold some of my cables on Asylum trader, too. I have never warmed up to them, mostly, because I NEVER used them much. But, when they are plugged in and used daily, they eventually sound rather good. Some cables may be more sensitive to it. I have to be careful I don't buy more cables than I really need, because who wants to go through break-in all the time.

RE: Cable re-break in?, posted on September 30, 2015 at 14:16:37

Mick Wolfe
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Exactly. No amount of time played in system will equate to a cable burn-in session on a cable cooker of some ilk. Years ago I bought a Hagerman FryBaby for IC's. IC's I was totally familiar with took on a new life after being "cooked". I still use this device today in a regular cable cooking rotation. People think nothing of buying cables that cost 2 or 3 times ( or more) more than the FryBaby, yet really never hear their potential.

Just re-cooked my cables last week, posted on September 30, 2015 at 17:56:44

Barry
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Location: PA
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Acoustic Zen Absolute Copper ICs. Everything that was missing is back in spades. Lower noise floor = more transparency, texture without haze, just a bit more tonal color, wider deeper sound stage, better dynamics with a touch more leading edge definition matching a little longer sustain.

24 hours was plenty. I have overcooked them.

I had last done this about 6 months ago and have done it routinely, but this time the difference was more dramatic than usual. Everything is way more life-like and natural.

One of my favorite most cost-effective purchases ever.

RE: Just re-cooked my cables last week, posted on September 30, 2015 at 18:28:04

David Pritchard
Audiophile

Posts: 227
Location: New Mexico
Joined: February 5, 2008

Once you have settled on your music source- amplifier- and speakers, the best investment you can make is to buy an Audiodharma to condition all your power cables, interconnects, ans speaker cables. It will allow you to evaluate your wires and decrease expensive wrong purchases.

And after your cables are conditioned, installed and allowed to settle in for 3-7 days buy a Haggerman Frycorder and place it in the same circuit as the sound system. It will condition the house wiring back to the electric company's transformer. The result is not subtle.

I am loving the combination of AudioDharma Cable Cooker and Haggerman Frycorder.

RE: Cable re-break in?, posted on October 1, 2015 at 09:11:16
fantja Audiophile Posts: 15524 Location: Alabama Joined: September 11, 2010	Maybe not a period of re-break in, per se. Connect them as soon as possible and listen to the Music!

RE: Cable re-break in?, posted on October 1, 2015 at 13:29:35

Duster
Manufacturer

Posts: 17117
Location: Pacific Northwest
Joined: August 25, 2002

When enamel insulated magnet wire is implemented for an audio cable, there is so little dielectric involvement that the new solder joint for your re-termination project may take longer to burn-in than the re-burn-in of the wire. That said, it generally takes substantially less time for a previously burned-in cable to settle back into a system if it's not been handled roughly after it's taken out of storage.

RE: Cable re-break in?, posted on October 1, 2015 at 19:26:18
wiggy924 Audiophile Posts: 104 Location: So. NM Joined: March 3, 2012	David Pritchard, Do you know if the Audiodharma cable cooker can condition in wall cables? I also use this cooker and if you haven't conditioned your cables, you're not going to hear them at their best...

+1 Frycorder n/t, posted on October 5, 2015 at 20:39:48
tweakmenow Audiophile Posts: 245 Location: East Coast USA Joined: March 26, 2012	.

It's the Hagerman Frykleaner, posted on October 6, 2015 at 16:20:44
Dave Pogue Audiophile Posts: 11689 Location: DC Area Joined: October 9, 2001	I just looked at mine to be sure. Wouldn't be without it.

RE: Cable re-break in?, posted on October 6, 2015 at 16:56:21

alan m. kafton
Manufacturer

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Hi, Ron....yes, the audiodharma can Cook in-wall cabling (12/2 and 10/2), and I do that for many customers BEFORE installation. But David is using the Hagerman device that is able to (partially) condition the already installed in-wall cabling....a very neat idea....in addition to his long-time use of the audiodharma on all the rest of his system cabling.

Of note, the Hagerman device has nowhere near the high current and voltage output of the audiodharma, but nonetheless it's a brilliant idea that Jim designed.

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