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Belden jumping into the high dollar

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Posted on May 17, 2015 at 20:35:46
Mr Peabody
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 Belden is putting out a high end, high dollar series of cables. There will be various levels. A dealer I know has the most expensive series samples to try. What he has is called Iconoclast, I'm not sure if this is the name of the entire product line or just that one series. From what I understand this stuff is very new and may not have officially launched yet. I just thought it interesting Belden jumping into that end of things after all these years. Although that would be where more profit is. If a number thrown out was correct a 1 meter XLR of this Iconoclast would run mid to high 4 figures. Some of the lesser expensive series samples were at Axpona.

 

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RE: Belden jumping into the high dollar, posted on May 22, 2015 at 01:55:18
beppe61
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Hi and i personally have a great respect for Belden products.
I am using some usb cables made with Belden wires and i like them a lot, and very very cheap.
Anyway i understand they have changed approach.
I attach a link to a very interesting article from their tech dept.
Needless to say that i follow their advice and i use AES also for balanced analog.
Kind regards,
bg

 

RE: Belden jumping into the high dollar, posted on May 23, 2015 at 10:57:12
Mr Peabody
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 I got to hear the OFC version of the Iconoclast speaker cables, $5k for a pair of 10'. The cable was sort of square, comprised of 21 braided strands The braid is supposed to be a special technique to end of with lowest possible capacitance. Each strand is also supposed to have air around it to deal with effects of dielectric. The shielding, if that's what it is, was very thin. I would guess all the strands looked to make up a 10 gauge cable.

I got to hear them in my system compared to my Clarus Crimson, the Crimson is supposed to be continuous cast or single cell copper but both models have about the same retail, my set is actually 12'. The Belden had very little play time on them. I still preferred the Clarus although the Iconoclast seemed to separate things more, more air and better detail. My Clarus had better textural density though which I liked. The Iconoclast just had a delicate delivery I couldn't get used to and sort of a coolness, lack of a better way to put it into words. I would have liked to put more music through the Iconoclast to get a better feel but time was limited.

Just ignore this if it doesn't make sense to you my friends didn't understand what I meant either but in case anyone might. Some understand a black background, where the music emerges from darkness, classic Krell and Levinson were known for this and you notice blacker background when conditioners or cords are added that removes noise you didn't realize was there. My Clarus seems to embrace the dark background feel where the Iconoclast was like white. Although the Iconoclast seemed to have outstanding detail and imaging I just couldn't get drawn into the "white" background presentation. Well, that and the delicateness of the presentation which gave to my mind a less natural sound.

 

RE: Belden jumping into the high dollar, posted on June 14, 2015 at 09:53:34
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RE: Belden jumping into the high dollar, posted on June 14, 2015 at 12:17:46
Mr Peabody
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Location: St. Louis, MO, USA
Joined: August 14, 2010
 I really don't know pricing other than what's in my earlier posts. You could check Hansen Audio's website and there's a pretty long thread with lot of info on the PS Audio forums, a general web search for "belden econoclast" should bring both.

 

RE: Belden jumping into the high dollar, posted on June 14, 2015 at 13:37:14
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