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What tonearm cable should Santa bring this year?

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Posted on November 17, 2014 at 13:17:48
magicsam
Audiophile

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Location: Philly
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 Hello all! Santa has about $300-$350 tops to spend on a tonearm cable for my old but sweet sounding Linn LP12. Along with the TT I have a GCPH PS Audio Phono-pre and an Alphson HR100s tonearm. I am still riding the original tonearm cable but i'm looking to upgrade, just because... I would also like to take advatage of the XLR inputs of the phono-pre.
Any advice would be appreciated. So it's 90degree Din to XLR.

 

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RE: What tonearm cable should Santa bring this year? , posted on November 17, 2014 at 14:48:42
Duster
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Location: Pacific Northwest
Joined: August 25, 2002
 Jelco phono cables should be on the short list. Jelco = Old-school Japanese audio manufacturing.

I much enjoy their original rca connector design for digital applications. Their OEM builds are behind a number of respectable audiophile products.

North American Jelco seller:

http://audiosensibility.com/blog/accessories/jelco-tonearm-store/#!/Jelco-Phono-Cables/c/3461662/offset=0&sort=normal

See link:

 

Santa's Not Bringing Anything, posted on November 17, 2014 at 20:18:54
Luminator
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Location: Bay Area
Joined: December 11, 2000



Before you make any cable changes, you need to acquire or borrow a cable burn-in device. I've said this repeatedly: it's the headshell leads->internal tonearm wiring->tonearm-to-phonostage circuit, which benefits the most from cable burn-in devices.

This audiophile community is chock full of vinyl devotees. As much as they extol the virtues of vinyl playback, they aren't even getting 15% of what their analog rigs are capable of. Why? They haven't used a cable burn-in device.

I use an audiodharma Cable Cooker, which has adapters allowing you to treat vinyl playback equipment.

And once you are done treating the wiring in your analog setup, be sure to treat the line-level interconnects, digital cables, speaker cables, and powercords. Hell, some powerline conditioners can also be treated.

I've had the audiodharma Cable Cooker for over a decade. Every month, someone will e-mail me, thanking me for turning them on to such a device. In many cases, the audiophiles, after Cooking their existing cables, have felt no need to replace/upgrade these cables.

The Audiophiles' DJ,
-Lumm The Loch Monster

 

RE: Santa's Not Bringing Anything, posted on November 20, 2014 at 13:42:15
fantja
Audiophile

Posts: 15515
Location: Alabama
Joined: September 11, 2010
 Keep Rockin' Lummy.

 

RE: Santa's Not Bringing Anything, posted on November 22, 2014 at 14:28:45
IdRatherBeDrumming
Audiophile

Posts: 19
Location: Putnam County, New York
Joined: April 12, 2009
 Never underestimate the gullibility of an audiophile. Welcome to the Enid Lumley Society for the Propogation of Hoodwinks, Hooey, and Hoaxes. Let the vitriol flow...

 

On the other hand,, posted on November 22, 2014 at 14:50:37
QuadTodd
Audiophile

Posts: 600
Location: Midwest
Joined: October 22, 2004
 never underestimate the snarkiness of a troll.

I've seen worse...

 

His first qualification...., posted on November 22, 2014 at 15:05:54
alan m. kafton
Manufacturer

Posts: 5285
Joined: April 7, 2000
 ....is not having tried what he snarks about.

Experience is not on his list.

 

RE: His first qualification...., posted on November 22, 2014 at 16:09:57
IdRatherBeDrumming
Audiophile

Posts: 19
Location: Putnam County, New York
Joined: April 12, 2009
 Hmmm... I seem to have expressed an unpopular opinion here in the Cable forum. Is there a Common Sense forum at the Asylum?

By the way, I was just ridiculed in another forum (not AA) for opining that burn-in is very real for headphones and speakers. I'll even allow that it might be valid for components. But no, not for wires. Are you telling me that the burn-in process knocks the electrons in the wire out of their orbits so as to make them conduct better? Or that it better "aligns" the electrons to allow the passage of energy? Someone is laughing all the way to the bank.

 

Most explanations of cable burn-in focus on the behaviour of the dieletric over time, posted on November 22, 2014 at 17:38:00
Metralla
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Location: San Jose, California
Joined: January 30, 2001
 But of course, you knew that.


Regards,
Geoff

 

RE: Most explanations of cable burn-in focus on the behaviour of the dieletric over time, posted on November 22, 2014 at 19:46:09
IdRatherBeDrumming
Audiophile

Posts: 19
Location: Putnam County, New York
Joined: April 12, 2009
 If you want to believe that miniscule (unproven and unmeasurable) differences in dielectic properties at the voltages, frequencies, and impedances inherent in moving coil or moving magnet cartridges are even the slightest bit audible, by all means, knock yourself out.

But I leave you with this thought: What makes you think that the cables stop changing when they are at their absolute best? What makes you think they won't start to sound sour after a while? Maybe they're like tubes and break-in, sound good for a while, then break down. The change would be imperceptable day-to-day, but cumulative over time. Your system just doesn't sound as good as it used to. Then you could buy my Super Deluxe Cable Reconditioner! On sale this Black Friday for only $2,995.95. A bargain at twice the price!

 

interesting, posted on November 22, 2014 at 22:24:18
unclestu
Dealer

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 attributes drumming seems.to think break in involves. Where did you get those from?

 

I too rather you were drumming, posted on November 22, 2014 at 22:45:17
johntoste
Audiophile

Posts: 458
Location: New England
Joined: March 20, 2004
 Just be sure to wear earplugs to avoid further hearing damage.

 

RE: What tonearm cable should Santa bring this year? , posted on November 23, 2014 at 03:45:27
astock
Audiophile

Posts: 15
Joined: June 22, 2001
 magicsam,
I enjoyed the LP12 and Alphason HR-100S combination for very many years. I then bought an Oyaide tonearm cable and was delighted with the improvement. This cable is available with a 90 degree DIN connector and falls within your budget. Dare I suggest that you give it a little time to get 'comfortable' with its new surroundings.

 

"Or that it better "aligns" the electrons to allow the passage of energy?", posted on November 23, 2014 at 12:12:45
alan m. kafton
Manufacturer

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 Actually, YES. The "passage of energy" is enhanced, as the electrons are following a straighter path.

This was explained to me by a physicist several years ago.

 

Yes, and as the fates have aligned..., posted on November 23, 2014 at 15:54:33
axolotl
Audiophile

Posts: 3955
Location: So. California
Joined: September 10, 2002
 ...we now get the contrary opinion of a man who studied drumming during physics class.

axolotl

 

HA!! Good one. [nt], posted on November 23, 2014 at 17:27:53
alan m. kafton
Manufacturer

Posts: 5285
Joined: April 7, 2000
 .

 

RE: His first qualification...., posted on November 23, 2014 at 19:12:17
IdRatherBeDrumming
Audiophile

Posts: 19
Location: Putnam County, New York
Joined: April 12, 2009
 Interesting. I made all that stuff up about knocking the electrons in the wire out of their orbits so as to make them conduct better, and better aligning the electrons to allow the passage of energy off the top of my head. Maybe I should make a Cable Reconditioner - I'm sure I can come up with some pseudo-scientific rhetoric to back up its exorbitant price. I can even pay some sham physicist to endorse it! I can be sure that no one would admit to not hearing a difference after its use for fear that they would be considered un-trained listeners, and I can also be sure that anyone that pointed out that it was a fake would be personally ridiculed and their voracity called into question. You have to love this hobby.

 

WARNING! , posted on November 23, 2014 at 21:10:30
Jon Risch
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 YOU ARE VIOLATING THE SPIRIT AND THE INTENT OF THIS FORUM.

See:

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/d.mpl?audio/dbt.html

and

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/d.mpl?audio/cables.html

Any further ;posts along these lines will be considered willful violation of these rules and of this warning!

Cable Forum Moderator,
Jon Risch

 

This IS the common sense forum, posted on November 25, 2014 at 14:17:17
mt10425
Audiophile

Posts: 2399
Location: 3 hours west of Chicago
Joined: January 23, 2004
 hahahahahahahahahaha



"It's all fun and games until someone doesn't pick up on the sarcasm"

 

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