Amp/Preamp Asylum

Looking for a new Amp or Preamp? If you're after tubes, post over here.

Return to Amp/Preamp Asylum

Message Sort: Post Order or Asylum Reverse Threaded

what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?

192.207.104.84
Posted on April 28, 2016 at 14:58:48
crknicker@gmail.com
Audiophile

Posts: 2
Location: WASHINGTON
Joined: April 28, 2016
 I changed some speakers (swapped in some older Boston Acoustics floor speakers as my surrounds and switched to a new Denon AVR-2105 receiver. Lead vocals now sound muffled and/or fuzzy. I used the built-in auto-setup and although it is worse with DSP modes, I hear the problem in both stereo and Dolby IIx. It does not seem to be related to a given speaker. Could this be a power issue? Any recommendations as to how to diagnose and fix this? Overall the sound is clear and detailed but this is a fatal flaw! It is a small room, approx 12 X 12 with my solid JBL L5s as Fronts. I've got banana plugs on everything so its pretty easy to swap in other spare receivers I have.
Mr. Knicks
(Goodwill Audiophile)

 

Hide full thread outline!
    ...
A cold ?, posted on April 28, 2016 at 15:52:01
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46280
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
 .

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 28, 2016 at 15:57:09
6bq5
Audiophile

Posts: 4385
Location: SF Bay
Joined: August 16, 2001
 too many variables make it difficult-
Swap one thing back to old -
then the other and see what you hear...
Happy Listening

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 28, 2016 at 17:03:00
fantja
Audiophile

Posts: 15518
Location: Alabama
Joined: September 11, 2010
 Welcome! Mr. Knicks

it is in the processing of your receiver. All of those DSP modes, time shifts between speakers...etc. Review your owners manual for openers and keep experimenting as best you can.

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 28, 2016 at 21:14:16
John Elison
Audiophile

Posts: 23900
Location: Central Kentucky
Joined: December 20, 2000
Contributor
  Since: January 29, 2004
 How can the sound be "clear and detailed" if vocals are "fuzzy and muffled?"

Maybe you should go back to your original configuration and swap one component in at a time until you discover the source of the problem. If your Boston Acoustics floor speakers sound okay with your original receiver, then the problem is most likely the new Denon AVR-2105 receiver. On the other hand, if the Denon AVR-2105 receiver sounds good with your original speakers, then the problem is likely to be the Boston Acoustics floor speakers. You should probably do these tests without any special DSP modes engaged.

Good luck,
John Elison

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 28, 2016 at 23:55:48
pictureguy
Audiophile

Posts: 22597
Location: SoCal
Joined: October 19, 2008
 Changing several things at ONCE is a recipe for confusion, if not disaster.

Good idea. Go to square one and reboot.
Too much is never enough

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 29, 2016 at 01:19:57
FenderLover
 You sure new setup is in phase?

 

Or maybe..., posted on April 29, 2016 at 02:52:51
genungo
 ... somebody needs to trim their mustache?

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 29, 2016 at 07:33:54
acres verde
Audiophile

Posts: 723
Location: Big Easy
Joined: November 13, 2004
 my thoughts exactly

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 29, 2016 at 08:54:00
crknicker@gmail.com
Audiophile

Posts: 2
Location: WASHINGTON
Joined: April 28, 2016
 I think it was in the phasing or the time shifts. I simplified the speaker layout to help the auto-adjust, repositioned the microphone, reran the auto-setup and (with some beginner's luck) all is very well. Thanks for the tips all! I have also trimmed my moustache and taken some cold medicine and that is helping as well. I did get lucky this time changing more than one thing at a time but next time I"ll be more cautions. Thanks all!
Mr. Knicks
(Goodwill Audiophile)

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 29, 2016 at 10:45:41
6bq5
Audiophile

Posts: 4385
Location: SF Bay
Joined: August 16, 2001
 Glad we were able to help-
Welcome to the loony bin!
Happy Listening

 

Were you listening to Eddie Vedder by any chance?, posted on April 29, 2016 at 15:08:48
Gary
Audiophile

Posts: 1294
Location: New York, NY
Joined: April 21, 2000
 Just wondering. Thanks.

 

Or Black Keys? (nt), posted on April 29, 2016 at 15:16:12
mkuller
Audiophile

Posts: 38130
Location: SF Bay Area
Joined: April 22, 2003
 (nt)

 

RE: what would cause vocals to be fuzzy/muffled?, posted on April 29, 2016 at 19:12:59
fantja
Audiophile

Posts: 15518
Location: Alabama
Joined: September 11, 2010
 Good to read- Mr. Knicks. Happy Listening!

 

polarity?, posted on April 30, 2016 at 04:38:22
MannyE
Audiophile

Posts: 2088
Location: Miami Beach
Joined: March 4, 2001
 happens to the best of us and to me a lot more often! Check all your connections.

 

RE: Or maybe..., posted on May 1, 2016 at 04:34:16
triamp
Audiophile

Posts: 780
Location: USA
Joined: August 6, 2008
 Hearing loss. Had yours checked recently?

I'm surprised how few audiophiles get their hearing tested regularly.....
Science doesn't care what you believe.

 

Page processed in 0.030 seconds.

[ Top Top of Page ] [ Contact Us ] [ Support/Wish List ] [ Copyright © 2024, Audio Asylum, all rights reserved ]
[ General ] [ Speakers ] [ Tubes ] [ Vinyl ] [ Digital ] [ Hi-Rez ] [ Video Asylum ] [ Cables ] [ Tweaks/DIY ] [ Music ] [ Films ]