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preamp with 12v trigger output

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Posted on November 15, 2015 at 00:20:20
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I would like to find a preamp with 12v trigger output function (budget around USD13000) to pair with my jeff rowland model 10.

Thank you for your enlightment!

 

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RE: preamp with 12v trigger output, posted on November 15, 2015 at 03:29:58
John Elison
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Pass Labs preamps have 12-V trigger outputs.

 

RE: preamp with 12v trigger output, posted on November 15, 2015 at 07:35:38
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ARC preamps have 12v trigger out.

 

RE: preamp with 12v trigger output, posted on November 15, 2015 at 09:33:06
airtime
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You have 13 grand and a trigger is your big request!

I'm sorry, that comment just took me by surprise. If I had $13k burning a hole in my pocket,I would be just sobering up just from the shock of being able to SPEND $13k on a preamp.

Enjoy the search!!!!

 

You can , posted on November 15, 2015 at 17:05:07
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Add a 12 V trigger to any component pretty easily

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"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936

 

How, posted on November 16, 2015 at 06:04:04
airtime
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No seriously, I would like to try that out on a piece I have.

thanks
charles

 

A few different ways......, posted on November 16, 2015 at 09:49:53
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A 12v trigger can be added a few different ways but in some cases it involves a bit of internal modification. Here are a few ideas....

1): If the amp / preamp / receiver / has a switched AC outlet on the back of it's chassis as some do, you can just plug a 12vdc wall wart into the switched AC outlet and you now have a 12vdc trigger source. Connect the output of the wall wart 12vdc to the trigger input of the device you want to control. However, it usually isn't that simple as most 'high-end' gear do not have switched AC outlets behind the chassis.... but some receivers and integrated amps do.

2): There might already be a 12vdc source inside the preamp, possibly for panel lighting. Tap off that source and run it out as your 12vdc trigger. If that 12v source is AC instead of DC, create a 1/2 wave rectifier using a small silicon diode and add a small cap for filtering. Most 12vdc trigger circuits require very little current so the chances of over loading the existing 12vdc source in the preamp is pretty minimal.

3): Find the primary side of the power transformer inside the preamp and determine how / where the AC mains power is applied to it. Wire the AC primary side of a small 12vdc power brick to the primary side of the power supply transformer and you now have a 12vdc trigger. Or build a small 12vdc power supply within the preamp chassis using a small transformer, rectifier diode, and filter cap.

*If noise from a switching power supply based wall wart or power brick is a concern, get one that is 'linear' instead of 'switching'. The wall wart or power brick doesn't need to source a lot of current. It will vary depending on the number of devices you want to trigger. I'd say anything over a hundred mA or so will be fine. I'd get a 500mA or 1Amp 12vdc wall wart / power brick but it's not at all critical.

4): Create a totally separate remote controlled 12vdc trigger:

- Use one of those AC outlet remote controls available at many hardware stores, Target, or Amazon. Plug a 12vdc wall wart into it and you now have a remote controlled 12vdc trigger source.



 

Careful with #2, it might give you a ground loop, posted on November 16, 2015 at 13:38:29
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Do the #3 instead, if you know how. That is clean way out, but remember, you are supposed to supply at least 100mA, and be protected against short circuit.


 

Good point. Thanks Victor...., posted on November 16, 2015 at 18:50:26
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...I suppose an inline fuse wouldn't be a bad idea.



 

RE: preamp with 12v trigger output, posted on November 16, 2015 at 19:01:29
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Grateful for all of the reply.

I am using Mark levinson 380s, but it does not bear 12 v output trigger so my model 10 may stay running overnight after I fall into sleep. That may shorten the life span of the power amp! (I usually listen to music in the bed, and use d remote to turn amp off at the time I was using Integrated smp year ago)

 

RE: preamp with 12v trigger output, posted on November 17, 2015 at 08:34:41
AbeCollins
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There's the remote control solution I posted earlier. Here's another potential solution.

Press the button up top for up to 6 hours of ON time.





 

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