Amp/Preamp Asylum

Looking for a new Amp or Preamp? If you're after tubes, post over here.

Return to Amp/Preamp Asylum

Message Sort: Post Order or Asylum Reverse Threaded

Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?

73.229.29.71
Posted on October 28, 2015 at 11:19:07
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46301
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
I'm not trying to start another "Class D" vs "others" war.

I am curious as to why we see so many Class D amps but relatively few Class D integrated amps.

Maybe I'm not looking in the right places?

I know of Wyred4Sound and maybe NAD has a Class D integrated? Who else, besides the multitude of low power cheapie boxes from eBay / China?

Thanks.



 

Hide full thread outline!
    ...
RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 11:25:41
mlsstl
Audiophile

Posts: 1079
Location: Midwest
Joined: September 1, 2015
 I really like my Bel Canto C5i. Even posted a review on Audioasylum.

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 11:28:16
oldmkvi
Audiophile

Posts: 10583
Joined: April 12, 2002
 I tried the Rogue Sphinx, $1000.
It had hum in my system, even with cheater plug,
and got too loud by about 8:30 on the vol control,
was too "Hot" for me.
But the Hum was a problem for me.

 

Here you go..., posted on October 28, 2015 at 12:21:23
mkuller
Audiophile

Posts: 38130
Location: SF Bay Area
Joined: April 22, 2003
 ...I'll be posting my impressions of the Gilmore and Merrill class D amps next week.

 

RE: Here you go..., posted on October 28, 2015 at 12:58:13
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46301
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
Nice choice! You jogged my memory and I now remember seeing the Devialet D-Premier review but I had to dismiss it on two counts:

Price and looks!

$15K is out of my league and besides, it looks like a bathroom scale that my wife might want to stand on. ;-)

It's definitely not in the eBay Chinese cheapie category but I was thinking somewhere in the $1500 - $5000 range or so +/-

Even though they're not integrated amps, I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the Gilmore and Merrill amps.


 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 13:14:58
fstein
Audiophile

Posts: 2996
Location: fstein
Joined: May 18, 2006
 Been running a Tact 2000 series, for almost a decade. multiple digital inputs, some have analogue board. Sweet, images well, fantastic bass. Blew away my Innersound megawatt monster. Poor factory support, design taken over by ???Lindquist???. Outstanding online review. cheap used.

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 13:45:28
fstein
Audiophile

Posts: 2996
Location: fstein
Joined: May 18, 2006
 love my tact 2000 series, multiple digital in, analogue board was available. Poor factory support, but a steal used. Design still being marked by L?
Good imaging, timbre. Bass blew away my mega-amp Innersound
of course have not listened to all the rest

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 13:48:10
Sunya
Audiophile

Posts: 595
Joined: July 11, 2007
 .

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 14:34:19
fstein
Audiophile

Posts: 2996
Location: fstein
Joined: May 18, 2006
 didn't mean to post twice... system crashed in middle

 

RE: Here you go..., posted on October 28, 2015 at 14:40:22
ahendler
Audiophile

Posts: 5151
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Joined: January 24, 2003
 I wrote about the Gilmore Raptors a long time ago. I said they were very close to the sound of a good tube amp and at $2500 a pair for mono blocks they should be much better known. I eventually went back to tube amps but the friend I sold them to loves them
Alan

 

What are you doing standing on my Devialet!?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 15:10:10
jedrider
Audiophile

Posts: 15168
Location: No. California
Joined: December 26, 2003
 I'm sorry. I was just weighing myself. All it says is CD 49dB, but that certainly can't be my real weight!

 

RE: Here you go..., posted on October 28, 2015 at 15:35:49
fstein
Audiophile

Posts: 2996
Location: fstein
Joined: May 18, 2006
 is this really class D?

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 15:44:58
pictureguy
Audiophile

Posts: 22597
Location: SoCal
Joined: October 19, 2008
 Going back a few years, PSAudio made 3 of 'em. GCC series by name and they came with the reaonable ASP modules from B&O and the proprietary Gain Cell input / switching circuit.

I had the GCC250 (middle) for several years and it was fine.

…...
Too much is never enough

 

Ok - here's the flamer question, posted on October 28, 2015 at 16:00:54
airtime
Audiophile

Posts: 11287
Location: Arizona
Joined: February 4, 2003
 So what is the big deal about class D ampsverses just a plain old good sounding amp in general?

Are there any sonic signatures that are unique to a class D vs a Class AB?

Is there any advantage of using a class D with preamp and speaker matching?

etc????


charles

 

Not understanding your question., posted on October 28, 2015 at 18:59:53
bare
Audiophile

Posts: 1879
Joined: April 14, 2009
 What means integrated ?? Phono capability inbuilt?
Diminishing demand for that.
Most chip amps do nicely on direct input, typically only a decent attenuator is all that's rq'd Or desired.
Truth is Best (Chip) Amps are DIY adventures...Always have been :-)
The Better bespoke current Lm3886 based ones, humble Many genuinely overpriced "famous name" amps.
Instantly obvious in the hearing.. Try it, it won't hurt you.
Forget gainclones, those while interesting back then, were not memorably good.. by most yardsticks.
Current evolutions are of Composite toplogies.
Moderne times Indeed.

 

RE: Not understanding your question., posted on October 28, 2015 at 19:47:41
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46301
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
Integrated Amp:
The power amp and linestage is in one chassis.

A "chip amp" isn't necessarily a "Class D" switching amp. The LM3886 is a power Op-Amp.

I'm more curious about Class D Integrated Amps. Thanks.


 

No flamer questions allowed !! ;-), posted on October 28, 2015 at 20:05:03
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46301
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
 I understand. I own a nice 'traditional' integrated amp in the Ayre AX-7e. It sounds wonderful.

I'm just curious to know which brands currently make Class D integrated amps in the range of maybe $1500 to $5000. I see so many Class D power amps, but not so many Class D integrateds.

The responses so far for current production models include:

- Primare I32 (I didn't know Primare went Class D)
- Rogue Sphinx
- Bel Canto C5i
- Wyred4Sound mINT

Not that many. Oh, I already ruled out the Devialet D-Premier on it's $15K price and looks. ;-)

I believe the Jeff Rowland Continuum S2 is Class D but it's $9K +. That Jeff Rowland chassis looks sweet to me compared to the Devialet bathroom scale.




 

April Music Stello Ai700 Class D Integrated Amplifier 500-wpc, posted on October 28, 2015 at 20:55:41
John Elison
Audiophile

Posts: 23900
Location: Central Kentucky
Joined: December 20, 2000
Contributor
  Since: January 29, 2004
 The Stello Ai700 Integrated Amplifier sounds really great. I heard it at RMAF and I was very impressed with its sound quality.

Best regards,
John Elison

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 28, 2015 at 22:17:43
kenzo
Audiophile

Posts: 955
Location: San Francisco
Joined: September 27, 2003

classDaudio sells some integrateds.

I own two of them.

 

RE: Here you go..., posted on October 29, 2015 at 00:26:54
Disbeliever
Audiophile

Posts: 1877
Joined: June 1, 2012
 tried Devialet D Premier at Home due to rave reviews in HFN & RR . preferred my 20 year old Class AB amplifier.

 

P.S. Audio???, posted on October 29, 2015 at 09:00:13
Opus 33 1/3
Audiophile

Posts: 4184
Location: D.C. Area
Joined: February 19, 2014
 I have the Trio C100 integrated. B&O ICEpower outputs, gain cell preamp section. 100 wpc at 8 Ohms, 200 at 4 Ohms, 3 line level inputs. Remote volume, muting and input selection.










Opus 33 1/3

 

I'd like to hear the NuPrime IDA-8 on some efficient speakers. *, posted on October 29, 2015 at 11:09:38
johntoste
Audiophile

Posts: 459
Location: New England
Joined: March 20, 2004
 *

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 29, 2015 at 13:45:49
longtimequadowner
Audiophile

Posts: 1040
Location: Vancouver BC
Joined: April 25, 2003



Geez man is this answer too obvious? The Peachtree novaSE discrete Class-A preamp output stage combines the musicality of Class-A design with the muscle of Class-D amplification

Costs less than the shun mook mpingo discs beside it. Lovely sound with my near field monitors. Don't even use the tube.

 

RE: P.S. Audio???, posted on October 29, 2015 at 14:37:06
pictureguy
Audiophile

Posts: 22597
Location: SoCal
Joined: October 19, 2008
 I think it's a little Earlier, but I had the GCC-250 with a pair of the ASP modules.

And, the Gain Cell. I took a look, once, and it is NON-Fixable. Potted in Expoxy.
Too much is never enough

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 29, 2015 at 15:29:31
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46301
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
 Ah yes, I forgot that their newer generation products went Class D.



 

Soo whaty do YOU actually want??, posted on October 29, 2015 at 18:47:47
bare
Audiophile

Posts: 1879
Joined: April 14, 2009
 Something from Best Buys perhaps OR the local Audio Weenie Emporium ?
Where the unctuous Sales type will say 'anything' to get a Commission.
OR perhaps a Magazine reviewer who earns subsistence Wages.. yet will Shill anything at all.. for Beer tokens??.

I've Replaced an se 45 Meshplate amp And a Paired Set of 5k$ SS amps on MY Tannoy Grfs (not some dorky Prestige Tannoy Imposters)
With a bespoke Lm3886 'Op Amp 'variant')
I was simply Astounded at the Sound Quality "improvement".
Haven't looked back.. even once... despite the previous gear simply collecting Dust.
A slammed shut mindset.. Does have drawbacks.. Mate.

Nor overly Clever to Not even explore genuine opportunities.

 

Class A/D Hybrid (nt), posted on October 30, 2015 at 04:29:59
Dave_K
 nt

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there .... , posted on October 30, 2015 at 04:45:57
A.Wayne
Audiophile

Posts: 2527
Location: Front row center
Joined: November 30, 2011
 Absolutely , try the Devialet , it will be your best amp yet ....

 

You would think there would be more, posted on October 30, 2015 at 05:14:55
Jack G
Audiophile

Posts: 9740
Joined: September 24, 1999
 To me, class D amps seem like a natural for integrateds. Many have high gain and sticking in a passive pre (like W4S) shouldn't be too difficult.
Jack

 

Are they really integrateds?, posted on October 30, 2015 at 10:27:21
Feanor
Audiophile

Posts: 9873
Location: London, Ontario
Joined: June 17, 2003
Contributor
  Since: March 12, 2004
 Having gain controls doesn't make the integrateds IMO.

I DIY'd a Class D Audio amp with one of their SDS-258 modules -- it is really very good for the price.


Dmitri Shostakovich

 

NuPrime IDA-8, posted on October 30, 2015 at 13:07:24
Terry
Audiophile

Posts: 1291
Joined: August 27, 2000
 This is the best that I have heard; however, I do not have extensive experience in this area.
Terry

 

RE: Ok - here's the flamer question, posted on October 30, 2015 at 13:32:09
Ugly
Audiophile

Posts: 2912
Location: Des Moines, WA
Joined: August 22, 2006
 Theoretically class D amps could approach perfect linearity, ie ultra low distortion. The devil is in the implementation. It's not easy to get them really quiet, especially put into service in systems full of gear traditionally known to be exceptionally poor at emi immunity.

 

RE: No flamer questions allowed !! ;-), posted on October 30, 2015 at 13:40:54
SgreenP@MSN.com
Audiophile

Posts: 3538
Joined: April 23, 2007
 I too think that the Rowland is the best of the bunch...to MY ears, all Class D's that I've heard don't make the grade, but I'm sure some day they will improve into the top category. I remember the hype about CD's. I heard the top (I think it was a SonyES), and couldn't believe anyone could be serious about it at all.

 

RE: Are they really integrateds?, posted on October 30, 2015 at 20:50:52
kenzo
Audiophile

Posts: 955
Location: San Francisco
Joined: September 27, 2003
 fair enough, you have a point. it ain't much fun running over to the amp to twiddle the gain knobs on a regular basis.

I did use it with a very famous and well respected tube preamp and it sure didn't hurt the sound to do that.

ken

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on October 31, 2015 at 11:59:51
Mikey8811
Audiophile

Posts: 188
Joined: June 4, 2011
 Crayon Audio has a well reviewed one. Google it.

 

No, not really., posted on October 31, 2015 at 15:00:53
morricab
Distributor or Rep

Posts: 9181
Location: switzerland
Joined: April 1, 2005
 I guess it depends on what you want it for. If you want it for computer speakers, then fine or even to add stereo to a TV for movie sound then ok too. For serious hifi listening, nope nothing...not even the new Devialets, which are probably the best D out there.

 

try it! you know you want to! LOL, posted on October 31, 2015 at 15:08:16
erik
Audiophile

Posts: 1145
Location: New England
Joined: April 3, 2000
 Just remembering your long-time opponent ;-)

 

Wouldn't mind hearing the Kii THREEs with their NCores. nt, posted on October 31, 2015 at 15:17:01
jusbe
Audiophile

Posts: 5950
Location: North Island
Joined: April 4, 2000
Big J

"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."


 

To paraphrase Voltaire...., posted on October 31, 2015 at 19:12:48
kuribo
Audiophile

Posts: 1759
Location: sw wi
Joined: June 27, 2000
 It's foolish to believe and follow everything written by audio mavens. For my part I listen only to please myself and like only what suits my taste. After all, the only person I need to impress is myself...

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on November 1, 2015 at 00:56:33
Disbeliever
Audiophile

Posts: 1877
Joined: June 1, 2012
 IMO a good Class AB is still much better for SQ & cheaper than any Class D switch mode radiating amp .

 

Maybe you just haven't heard one..., posted on November 1, 2015 at 04:36:52
John Elison
Audiophile

Posts: 23900
Location: Central Kentucky
Joined: December 20, 2000
Contributor
  Since: January 29, 2004
 The April Music Stello Ai700 is an excellent sounding Class D integrated amplifier. At least the one I heard at RMAF sounded quite spectacular to me. It was driving some very good speakers, though.



 

Or perhaps people's tastes differ..can't please everyone. Opinions speak of the listener not the equipment. nt, posted on November 1, 2015 at 05:20:58
kuribo
Audiophile

Posts: 1759
Location: sw wi
Joined: June 27, 2000
 nt

 

Your post doesn't address the OP's question nor was your opinion of class ab solicited..., posted on November 1, 2015 at 05:26:26
kuribo
Audiophile

Posts: 1759
Location: sw wi
Joined: June 27, 2000
 Why do you feel the need to pollute every class d thread with your irrelevant and useless opinion about the superiority of class ab? You aren't being helpful, just obnoxious.

 

Unless you've heard every Class D Integrated in the world, it would be pretty hard to make that argument!, posted on November 1, 2015 at 07:06:28
John Elison
Audiophile

Posts: 23900
Location: Central Kentucky
Joined: December 20, 2000
Contributor
  Since: January 29, 2004
 However, I'm talking about only one Class D Integrated, the April Music Stello Ai700. Have you even heard that one?

 

RE: Unless you've heard every Class D Integrated in the world, it would be pretty hard to make that argument!, posted on November 1, 2015 at 12:02:36
morricab
Distributor or Rep

Posts: 9181
Location: switzerland
Joined: April 1, 2005
 I have heard many ICE powered amps, which is what the Stello is according to 6moons, so I can safely dismiss this one as well I think. Every one that I heard has a similar signature and I am pretty confident that this one won't be substantially different.

 

RE: Wouldn't mind hearing the Kii THREEs with their NCores. nt, posted on November 1, 2015 at 12:03:40
morricab
Distributor or Rep

Posts: 9181
Location: switzerland
Joined: April 1, 2005
 Heard Mola Molas twice now and with excellent speakers but there is no music in Mola mola land.

 

RE: Unless you've heard every Class D Integrated in the world, it would be pretty hard to make that argument!, posted on November 1, 2015 at 12:10:32
John Elison
Audiophile

Posts: 23900
Location: Central Kentucky
Joined: December 20, 2000
Contributor
  Since: January 29, 2004
 Well, it sounded good to me!

 

RE: Inspector Tooby vs Inspector Class-D , posted on November 1, 2015 at 12:14:05
A.Wayne
Audiophile

Posts: 2527
Location: Front row center
Joined: November 30, 2011
 Cab, you are alive ..!


Thank god , most likely the thought of another class-D amplifier making it and Kuribo's presence brought you out of hiding .... :)



Sweeet .....

 

Many others too, no doubt. Many have been very positive about icepower...again, it's personal preference...nt, posted on November 1, 2015 at 13:26:38
kuribo
Audiophile

Posts: 1759
Location: sw wi
Joined: June 27, 2000
 nt

 

I have heard, unsurprisingly, both good and bad impressions...nt, posted on November 1, 2015 at 13:29:31
kuribo
Audiophile

Posts: 1759
Location: sw wi
Joined: June 27, 2000
 nt

 

RE: I have heard, unsurprisingly, both good and bad impressions...nt, posted on November 1, 2015 at 15:29:06
A.Wayne
Audiophile

Posts: 2527
Location: Front row center
Joined: November 30, 2011
 Yep , spent some time with a class-D Crown xls2000 , in my setup it was, well , not acceptable , bad timbre , sizzly top end and shrunken between the speaker sound stage , Just really sounds like a bad CD , suprised as quite a few others like the sound and i bought a few to try in the HT.

Inexpensive A/B is much better than this inexpensive class-D for audio , well in my setup..

 

Kii and Crown are at opposite ends of the spectrum price and tech wise...nt, posted on November 1, 2015 at 15:58:39
kuribo
Audiophile

Posts: 1759
Location: sw wi
Joined: June 27, 2000
 nt

 

RE: Unless you've heard every Class D Integrated in the world, it would be pretty hard to make that argument!, posted on November 2, 2015 at 02:27:32
morricab
Distributor or Rep

Posts: 9181
Location: switzerland
Joined: April 1, 2005
 as you say...Given your all SS system it seems tone is not a high priority for you and then I can sort of understand what you liked about the Stello. If you listen to the "Ice" sound a while then you realize what is missing and the dryness in the upper mids/highs is simply not right. Read what Martin Colloms has to say about Ice based amps when he reviewed one of the Bel Cantos (he gave it and all the Class D abysmal ratings).

 

RE: Your post doesn't address the OP's question nor was your opinion of class ab solicited..., posted on November 2, 2015 at 03:50:06
Disbeliever
Audiophile

Posts: 1877
Joined: June 1, 2012
 I assume you favour Class D rubbish, I do not like to see audiophiles being misled. so my advice remains avoid all Class D amps and buy a good Class AB one,

 

Condescending as usual: not everyone values caramel-coated sound -nt, posted on November 2, 2015 at 05:21:19
Feanor
Audiophile

Posts: 9873
Location: London, Ontario
Joined: June 17, 2003
Contributor
  Since: March 12, 2004
 What comprises "simply not right" is subjective. Saying that it doesn't sound like "live" music is meaningless because live sound exists only in the moment. In recollection of live sound is a melding of live sound experiences in one's mind and therefore highly subjective and unreliable from another person's POV.


Dmitri Shostakovich

 

You are not helping the OP, you are only polluting this thread, besides,"good class ab" is an oxymoron nt, posted on November 2, 2015 at 06:55:06
kuribo
Audiophile

Posts: 1759
Location: sw wi
Joined: June 27, 2000
 nt

 

RE: Condescending as usual: not everyone values caramel-coated sound -nt, posted on November 2, 2015 at 14:48:14
morricab
Distributor or Rep

Posts: 9181
Location: switzerland
Joined: April 1, 2005
 Who is advocating "caramel" coated sound?? That is the opposite end of the spectrum distortion. Obviously you have reading comprehension issues about the material I post here.

 

RE: Inspector Tooby vs Inspector Class-D , posted on November 2, 2015 at 14:49:44
morricab
Distributor or Rep

Posts: 9181
Location: switzerland
Joined: April 1, 2005
 I was on holiday getting a tan in Greece...everyone needs a break once in a while...even from the asylum ;-).

 

Is "caramel-coated" hyperbole?, posted on November 3, 2015 at 05:17:03
Feanor
Audiophile

Posts: 9873
Location: London, Ontario
Joined: June 17, 2003
Contributor
  Since: March 12, 2004
 You have been privileged to hear many very high-end tube and solid-state SE amplfiers -- from such equipment I would expect very few compromises.

Nevertheless the typical tube amp is popular as much, or likely far more, because it delivers 2nd or 3rd order HD that because it doesn't produce so much high-order HD.

Personally I'd like to hear Benchmark's AHB2 amp that has virtually unmeasurably low distortion according John Atkinson. YES, I am sure that it wound NOT sound like the typical tube or SE amp.



Dmitri Shostakovich

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on November 3, 2015 at 08:19:32
duck decoy
Audiophile

Posts: 233
Location: NC
Joined: August 20, 2014
 I have a Sphinx and cured the hum problem by putting a "Ebtech Hum X" between by power conditioner and the Sphinx. It was about $55 from Amazon.

 

RE: Is "caramel-coated" hyperbole?, posted on November 3, 2015 at 08:25:55
morricab
Distributor or Rep

Posts: 9181
Location: switzerland
Joined: April 1, 2005
 "because it delivers 2nd or 3rd order HD that because it doesn't produce so much high-order HD"

Wrong, wrong, wrong.


The tubey colorations that you are eluding to have little to nothing to do with 2nd and 3rd order harmonics, which are basically inaudible up to several %.

They are usually caused by use of inadequate output transformers and/or negative feedback (yes most tube amps still use some of that...especially cheap ones). Inadequate iron saturates and makes a whole host of harmonics but as this saturation is from the bass it pollutes the bass up through the midrange and gives that "tubey" or "caramel" coloration. Then if a fairly high amount of negative feedback is used you can get "glassy" highs as well. A tube amp with negative feedback and decent output iron might sound simply more like a SS amp (think Octave or some ARC amps). Inadequate iron with modest to no feedback might sound darkish or caramel colored. An amp with good iron and a highly linear circuit without feedback will sound natural and open with tight punchy bass.

 

I think you missed the point, yet again, posted on November 4, 2015 at 11:19:56
AbeCollins
Audiophile

Posts: 46301
Location: USA
Joined: June 22, 2001
Contributor
  Since: February 2, 2002
 Everyone else here understood my question and the conversation has long left you behind. Good day.



 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on November 4, 2015 at 15:41:33
passive chappy
Audiophile

Posts: 70
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: September 17, 2009
 Hey Abe. I've been following these class-d flame wars here for quite a while. I'll save my opinions for that topic for another thread.

In the meantime, I heard this at Axpona 2015 and thought it sounded quite good. It's ICE power based and a all in one so I doubt it will replace your Manleys, but it was nice sounding. Not sure if it's better than the earlier suggested Stello though.

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on November 4, 2015 at 16:54:08
passive chappy
Audiophile

Posts: 70
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: September 17, 2009
 There is also the Gato Audio DIA 250s, but it has a built in DAC. A lot of integrated amps seem to be going this route. I know that could be a problem. But that's the trend.

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on November 21, 2015 at 15:15:49
The Rang
Audiophile

Posts: 40
Location: Vancouver
Joined: February 18, 2004
 I've heard good things from a couple of trusted sources about the NuPrime IDA-16 and IDA-8

 

RE: Condescending as usual: not everyone values caramel-coated sound -nt, posted on November 26, 2015 at 00:13:53
pictureguy
Audiophile

Posts: 22597
Location: SoCal
Joined: October 19, 2008
 My opinion is meaningless, but I too, had a wrongness in the HF end of things with an ICE based integrated. I had the PSAudio GCC250 which uses the ASP modules.
This is not a 'quick' opinion, but rather after several years of ownership and going thru EVERY possible setup option with my panels.
And I'm not saying it didn't pass the 'live' test, since I do NOT hear nearly enough live music to make that a reference point.
I have my own theory of what was wrong, but that's for another time.
Too much is never enough

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on November 28, 2015 at 07:50:07
samurai7595
Audiophile

Posts: 348
Location: Canada
Joined: November 1, 2007
 I really love my Devialet 200 integrated amp!

 

RE: NuPrime IDA-8, posted on December 4, 2015 at 09:57:11
biondo1962
Audiophile

Posts: 1
Joined: January 6, 2012
 hello Terry, please I need some information about an old post of Quad ESL and speaker cables,
please can you reply to me? thanks!!!

 

RE: Any good Class D integrated amps out there ?, posted on December 12, 2015 at 21:30:00
pictureguy
Audiophile

Posts: 22597
Location: SoCal
Joined: October 19, 2008
 EMOTIVA is apparently going to bring one to market fairly soon.
Maybe 100 a side? Check out the press release if you care.

It will be ICE based.
Too much is never enough

 

Page processed in 0.067 seconds.

[ Top Top of Page ] [ Contact Us ] [ Support/Wish List ] [ Copyright © 2024, Audio Asylum, all rights reserved ]
[ General ] [ Speakers ] [ Tubes ] [ Vinyl ] [ Digital ] [ Hi-Rez ] [ Video Asylum ] [ Cables ] [ Tweaks/DIY ] [ Music ] [ Films ]