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Posted on October 8, 2014 at 11:13:47
mbnx01
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Damn. This is one nice looking amplifier. The silver faceplate with the black tube cage = awesome.

Only six hours on it but sounding very good already.

It's amazing they can sell this U.S. made KT120 amp for only two grand. I know they buy parts in very large quantity and keep the company costs down by having very few employees, but still.... two grand? This might be the biggest bargain in hi-fi today.













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I like the nudie., posted on October 8, 2014 at 12:49:01
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I've not been temted to buy the cage for my Cronus. No kids around mine, tho.

 

I love amps (and gear) that have this kind of look..., posted on October 8, 2014 at 13:31:29
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Not overstated to the point of ugly, just very well thought out and to the point!

Nice score, BTW! Enjoy!!!

Cheers,
Dman
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RE: Rogue Atlas pics, posted on October 8, 2014 at 13:42:39
fantja
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Great pics!

 

RE: I like the nudie., posted on October 8, 2014 at 13:46:29
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Yeah, I need the tube cage pretty bad.




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My Canon G15, posted on October 8, 2014 at 13:48:21
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Takes great pics, even in low light and is super easy to use.




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RE: I like the nudie., posted on October 8, 2014 at 14:32:04
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I know where someone is sleeping this winter.

 

RE: I like the nudie., posted on October 8, 2014 at 14:51:23
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What a beautiful cat! Awesome!

 

A Maine Coon mix (and a beauty!), posted on October 8, 2014 at 20:57:48
Winston Smith
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Had one very similar. Maine Coon mix. Great cat. "Killer" was his name (appropriately enough, as all the resident rodents found out.) Lived to be 19 years old. Wonderful friend to the whole family.

Yes, kitties just love cardboard boxes, getting settled in, all nice and comfy and warm. Never met a cat yet that can resist an open cardboard box, at least not the cats I've had. (And I've had 23, so far.)

May your kitty "live long and prospurr!" :-)

Thanks for sharing!

WS

 

Looking good, posted on October 9, 2014 at 01:29:17
RGA
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Rogue makes nice stuff at sane prices. My dealer in HK has the big Zeus amp - Holy cow they're enormous and the price is not crazy considering the build quality.

 

RE: My Canon G15, posted on October 9, 2014 at 05:30:50
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I use my Canon G10 for all my gear photos too, and the results are simply outstanding. The older G10 is not as good in low light, but that isn't a problem in most situations. BTW, P&S cameras generally have excellent macro ability because of the design physics required to fit the lens in a small package.


 

That is a really good looking system too!, posted on October 9, 2014 at 05:32:18
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What is your equipment list please?


 

RE: Rogue Atlas pics, posted on October 9, 2014 at 07:53:34
Nice pics! Enjoy your new Atlas, I know you'll love it.

I've owned my Cronus Magnum for a couple of years. It's a silver faceplate version with the black tube cage. As I'm sure you already know the Cronus is the integrated version of your Atlas. I expect to enjoy mine for years to come if I so choose. I'm sure that you can do the same with your Atlas.

At this point I think that Rogue offers the best bang for the buck available, and the fact that it's USA designed and manufactured along with Mark O'Brien's great customer service only goes towards making their products a terrific value.

Cheers,
Al

 

RE: My Canon G15, posted on October 9, 2014 at 18:03:11
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And I use my Canon G12 as my main 'go to' camera for quick pics. The Canon "G" series has been very popular among enthusiasts who want more than a simple point n shoot.




 

Sweet !!, posted on October 9, 2014 at 18:14:03
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Congrats on the new amp. It's a beauty and I'm sure it sounds great too. I may need to get a tube cage for my Cronus Magnum since your Atlas looks so good with it's clothes on.

Not to start another Rogue love fest, but I too believe Rogue offers great bang for the buck value in American made tube gear.

By the way, what is that device behind the perforated Salamander door displaying the digits 223 in blue? It looks almost like one of those old nixie tube digital clocks.

 

RE: Sweet !!, posted on October 9, 2014 at 18:55:08
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It's my Squeezebox Touch. I have it running into a W4S reclocker and then into the DAC on my YAMAHA S2100 SACD/CD PLAYER.

Best system I've ever had, by far.

I put off buying the Rogue for a long time. It's big, it's heavy, it'll cost me $200 a year in tubes. But it sounds so great and was so cheap for what you get I finally couldn't resist anymore.






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Tube costs, posted on October 9, 2014 at 20:02:35
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The tubes should last several years at least, unless you get restless. The power tubes have individual biasing, so you should be able to replace the power tubes one at a time, though they tend to be sold in pairs.

For the small tubes, I've found that used tubes from ebay, as opposed to NOS, work just fine. See Joe's Tube Lore for some suggestions. I'm using GE black plate 5751s and RCA Cleartops in my Rogue M-180s.

 

RE: Rogue Atlas pics, posted on October 9, 2014 at 21:37:57
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Agree this is truly a fine amp.

Enjoy,
JohnnyR

 

what I've heard, posted on October 9, 2014 at 22:00:22
mbnx01
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Is two thousand hours. I will do that in a year.

Is that not correct?





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RE: what I've heard, posted on October 10, 2014 at 06:37:45
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That's what I've experienced with my Cronus Magnum. Whatever tube types I've used (KT 120, KT 88, 6550, etc.). I guess it's to be expected when you get up to 100 watts out of two tubes.

 

How do KT120s fail?, posted on October 10, 2014 at 16:10:40
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I assume that as long as they hold a bias that my KT120s are OK. KT90s would glow bright purple and make a squealing noise before blowing a fuse.

 

RE: Rogue Atlas pics, posted on October 10, 2014 at 18:33:42
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Enjoy. I used to run a non-magnum EL-34 Atlas with Tannoy Kensingon SE and 99 Magnum. It was an extremely enjoyable and well-balanced system; many fine listening hours there. I know the KT-120'd magnum will be even better. Next big step up would be to go right for an Athena; well worth the scratch over the 99 and sounds just like my Hera. The jump from Atlas to Apollo is notable, but getting to the level of Athena pre is more significant!

 

RE: How do KT120s fail?, posted on October 11, 2014 at 07:14:11
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I change power tubes once they start sounding thin in the mid-range, long before they would actually fail. This happens by the 1800-2000 hour mark with all the current production tubes I've tried (with various amplifiers). How long they would last before total failure I don't know: I would speculate another 1000 hours from what I've heard.

 

RE: How do KT120s fail?, posted on October 11, 2014 at 19:05:45
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I can easily put in 2000 hours in a year, so that would be a $400/year expense for me. Downside of going with the monoblocks.

 

RE: How do KT120s fail?, posted on October 11, 2014 at 19:13:04
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I haven't been keeping track of my Cronus Magnum tube hours so I'll probably just swap them out in a few years. Mine have relatively low hours because I listen mostly to my solid-state integrated for a good 8 - 10 hours a day in my office.

The Cronus Magnum gets special treatment and is powered ON only for those special sit-down and pay attention listening sessions rather than background music while I work. I've never had a tube outright fail in my Rogue gear.

I had a bad batch of EL34 tubes a few years ago in my Manley monoblocks and that was a bit of a pain. I had to replace a few cathode resistors under the chassis and at 70 Lbs each, it was a bit of work..... but I felt better about doing it myself vs trying to ship those beasts half way across the country for service. I replaced all 10 EL34 (per monoblock) with 6CA7EH and all was fine.

Overall I've had pretty good luck with tubes, no major catastrophes.

The Manley amps were a couple of THE best sounding that I have ever owned. But you know what? The Rogue is right up there at a fraction of the price.









 

RE: How do KT120s fail?, posted on October 11, 2014 at 20:33:26
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Beautiful pics Abe! Do you still use Manley in your system?

 

RE: How do KT120s fail?, posted on October 12, 2014 at 00:38:49
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I downsized and sold the Manleys a while ago.

 

RE: How do KT120s fail?, posted on October 12, 2014 at 06:04:17
fantja
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I thought that you were using Rogue exclusively...

 

RE: How do KT120s fail?, posted on October 12, 2014 at 10:22:17
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I just KT120 re-tubed my Rogue Apollo. Really didn't want to, because 600 bucks. I didn't keep a tight hours count, but I'd roughly estimate between 1400-2000 hours on the last set over 3 years. They were still holding a bias fine, and sounded almost good as new. But one night recently, a main fuse (the one by the power cord socket) blew upon power-on, and Rogue encouraged the route of caution towards re-tubing -- emphasizing that fuses usually blow for a reason. I replaced the fuse and ran that old set a few more sessions without incident, then bit the bullet and loaded fresh tubes. The new tubes have a notably healthier side-getter flashing, and probably sound a touch crisper (in a good way; not bright).

Glad I replaced the tubes to lower the risk of an "incident" like a had with an EH KT-90 after only a couple hundred hours (back in 2010) -- it shorted catastrophically, fireworks & smoke, torching a resistor and mildly scorching the circuit board underneath (got a new board printed). The system was sounding really great right up until that incident, too; it occurred right at the end of a bass heavy track!

 

the KT-90 incident..., posted on October 12, 2014 at 12:04:55
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Was that in an ARC amp?

They're well known for blowing resistors in a spectacular fashion.



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RE: the KT-90 incident..., posted on October 12, 2014 at 12:16:10
mulveling
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Nope, it was in one side of my Rogue Apollo monoblocks, just before (or around the time) that the KT-120 came out. Probably just a fluke, but it bypassed the various fuse protections. After the replacement EH KT-90 and board (replaced under warranty at no cost to myself), I didn't have any problems for another few hundred hours before moving to KT-120, which are better sounding and likely to be much more reliable. They're great amps, which is why they've stuck in my system for 4.5 years now.

 

I just put this on the Quads, posted on October 12, 2014 at 17:40:53
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I've been running it in on my bookshelf speakers.

Just hooked up the 57's. OMG. This isn't the best system I've ever owned, this is the best system I've ever heard.

Incredible resolution and depth for miles. This is stunning. I was happy running the Quads with my Croft amp, but this is another world.



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