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Venturing into analog, I find that on some brand new LP's a terrible distorion/break up of sound from the left channel, occassionally appearing twice or thrice on a playing side. 2 LP's so far, Willie Nelson - 180g American Classics and a standard reissue of C. Adderly - Something Else both purchased from Amazon. (I guess not worth the return if it is an LP issue as I live in Australia)
Initially when new the break of sound appears, but only on the left channel.
The sound reminds you of the crackle you get when you switch off a tube amp with the source still playing as the power dies out of the amps.
Please could fellow asylum members educate me with their findings on this situation.
Could this be an alignment issue?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
Follow Ups:
is to go to our local grocery store and buy a Magic Eraser. Slice a piece off the end, set it down somewhere on your table where the stylus clears it when in the UP position. Use the rest to clean your sinks.
NEVER use the eraser...some say to put it on a toothpick and raise it up, daubing the stylus, but I think my method (I didn't invent the method) is far safer.
Lower the arm with the weight of the arm/cartridge, setting it on the eraser material. I raise and lower my arm about 5 times.
Be sure to use a dry stylus brush (back to front) to brush off the micro-fiber particles, if any, that may have clung to the cantilever and stylus. I also recommend the use of either Stylast or LP # 9 or any other good LIQUID stylus cleaner after you have used the Magic Eraser and the dry stylus brush.
Your stylus will be pristine.
I had some gunk built up on a Dyna that was like molten rock. None of the liquid cleaners would budge it. The Magic Eraser made it clean as my Mother's floors (you could eat off them).
Caveat: always be very careful with liquid stylus cleaners as some cantilevers are hollow and can "wick" the cleaner up and into your cartridge, perhaps destroying it.
There is no such thing as too many records.
There is just too little room for them!
I use your method as well. I have some of that LP#9 cleaner (number nine...number nine...) but I swear it increases static. Dunno how.
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Time wounds all heels.
" but I swear it increases static. Dunno how. "
Think it might just be the liquid migrating(via convection)up the cantilever ?
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Time wounds all heels.
I'll have to check for that!
"Interesting, eh Schultz?" as Klink rubs his hands together in glee.
There is no such thing as too many records.
There is just too little room for them!
even with a x40 loupe, I can't see where exactly fluids are applied.
I think that the liquid stylus cleaner itself can be beneficial but the user errors are too high. This is probably why some cartridge manufacturers do not recommend it.
A friend told me the diamond inside his Dyna 17D fell off from overuse of stylus cleaner. Apparently, the stylus was unglued from applying it on a wrong spot.
A dry method ( either with the AT/Signet vibrating stylus cleaner without liquids ) or Linn's Green paper work just as fine )
I had a detached diamond from an Adcom Cross coil diagnosed as being the result of liquid stylus cleaner use, I'll only use liquid stylus cleaner now very sparingly and only before a microscopic exam.
The Zendust pad in concert with the Magic Eraser is ideal for any and all normal stylus cleaning, in the rare event of resistant burned on grunge the Green Sandpaper is superior to any liquid IMHO.
I've never used the vibrating / ultrasonic stylus cleaner gadget, to me (I'm the guy that thought Manual Dexterity was a Puerto Rican ;-)that's really scary aside from seemingly pointless.
Regards Ferd
My LP12 plays well with what I put on it whether it's thin or 180g. When something doesn't sound right, I first check the cart for buildup. After that it's the record itself.
What you describe is a setup issue in most cases, resulting from incorrect adjustment of anti-skate. Check your setup please. There is almost certainly nothing wrong with your stylus.
I've experienced the same thing, just not with a particular channel
I always assumed it was an excess mold release pollution issue, however I was recently taken to task over the issue by a few inmates who stated (rather convincingly)that the whole mold release issue is mythical in nature.
I'm guessing you have some sort of a stylus fouling and azimuth or alignment issue.
You might consider cleaning your stylus with the ultra fine (8000 grit) 3M light green sand paper technique, which I learned from a high end dealer friend
with almost 40 years analog experience who used that exclusively as well as recommending it to all his clients many of whom ran megabuck cartridges, it is extremely effective in removing resistant crud, but completely harmless, you just take a tiny piece and gently pull it across the stylus from back to front once or twice, don't forget to turn down the gain as it sounds horrendous.
I normally use either the Zen dust pad and or the Magic Eraser, but use the 3M paper on occasion.
Regards Ferd
I had an issue like this recently with a copy of Kate Bush Aerial. Brand new pressing. Gave it a good clean with Disc Doctor & hey presto - groove distortion gone. It had to be something in the groove. Release agent ?
Dunno but it's gone now.
Bet regards
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\ I clean all my vinyl, what I'm referring to was properly cleaned records that still have noise issues often when I've then used, Micro care Contact cleaner on that record the issue is diminished, I'd always assumed that was
MRA.
This posters issue only involved the left channel, I'd really appreciate your explanation how a record has MRA or any other groove pollution issue that only affects one or the other side of the groove ?
The record has no issues, nor does the stylus. I didn't sense he was referring to noise, but to distortion - sounds like a crackling breaking up throughout the channel. Distortion in the LEFT channel indicates too much anti-skate force (if it was in the right, that would indicate too little).
Always follow the setup order - once the cart is aligned correctly, set anti-skate to zero and tracking force to zero. Then set the counterweight. next dial in the recommended tracking force and set the anti-skate. Dial back tracking force a bit after to an ideal spot.
There should now be no distortion in either channel.
Second this. But it would help if he described his brands.
Thanks for all the suggestions. Points taken from above are
1)Clean the LP's (Have a 16.5 and the 3 step AIV fluids)
2)Ensure Stylus is clean too (At present I use the Zerodust Gel) and under the magnifying glass it looks clean. Have never used liquids.
3)Check antiskate, if too much.
The gear I am using since a few months is a Basis Signature 2800, Vector 4 arm and Lyra Helicon SC cartridge.
As I said this has happenned only on these 2 particular LP's.
Otherwise it works brilliantly on all the others LP's.
Thanks once again for your thoughts and suggestions.
If readjustments do not correct the problem, it could be a vinyl stamping issue. I have read about this here in the Asylum that sometimes the vinyl does not flow outward from the center of the press correctly and the left channel (inner groove wall) usually suffers most.
Good luck,
John Elison
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