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Yes, admittedly this is somewhat off topic, but I do see a relationship between a format "that's dead," to use one wit's phrase in referring to records, and a tape format that appears to be defunct.Do you see a connection between the above phrase and cassette tapes? Is there an analogy?
(I'm demo-ing an old Denon DR M11. He wants $39.00, but I can't decide whether I want it or not.)
My apologies to the group if this thread offends my vinyl friends.
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Happy owner of a NAK RX505 and hope to be for the foreseeable future. Great sound!
Home recording is all digital now. CD-R's and DVD+R's. I still think vinyl is superior, but unless I can make my own records, then I will choose the next best - which is CD-R for audio.
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nt
You can find pre-recorded cassettes for prices like 4/$1 everywhere- I throw away maybe 1 in 5 as trashed but also find maybe 1 in 5 is just excellent! Its a great way to listen to stuff you've never heard before on the cheap, and they're great in the car.For recording I use my stand-alone CDR pretty much exclusively, except casettes to catch an occasional radio show- the Yamaha is autoreverse on record and you can get Saint Paul Sunday on cassette easily.
Cassettes are definitely not dead. See deck reccs in old thread:
I just bought 4 cassettes for $1.00, and the music is very good. In many ways it's like vinyl, in that the cheapness opens up a whole new frontier for music experimentation.I'm just wondering if I should go down that road.
I still have a Technics RSB905 Three head closed loop twin capstan drive HXpro,cassette recorder with dolby b,c,fine bias adjustment and
DBX with separate left ,right record calibration.This deck has a NAK
transport.I bought it brand new in 1986 and it still works as good
as the day I bought it.I still use it from time to time to tape a
weekly blues show from my FM Dynalab md102.Duane Upshaw
still using tandberg tcd310 and tcd330 - original owner of both!
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST
Bought it back when CD's hadn't been dreamed up yet. Use it about twice a year these days, but I kept it running all these years and see no reason to part with it.
Reel to Reel. The TEAC X10R kills both the Dragon and Yamaha but the Dragon is the best sounding cassette deck hands down (better than the Tandberg).
I sold my Nakamichi 3 head unit a few years ago and my wife has a Sony ES 3 head deck that we have not touched in as many years. I would not let anyone elses opinion here effect your decision. It's only $39 and you are the one that has to determine the need for it. My reasoning for ditching mine was that once I replaced the tape deck in the car with a CD unit, I never used the tape deck at home any longer. I only used it to tape Lps and listen to them in the car. When I'm at home I just spin them directly and have a couple of CD players, so the tape decks get dusty at my house.
-Bill
It's a Sony ES dual well jobbie. She bought it new 15 years ago; it's been her primary source ever since. Replaced the motors recently. To my ears it is audibly slowing the pitch, but she likes it, so what the hey.
...but 4 of them are in my automobiles. The other "two" are the double wells of my Pioneer CT-07D. Still use 'em too. Easier to record off-air than to CD.
nt
When I married my wife she came along with a 9191 which I already owned. We rarely play either thee days but they look pretty cool on a secondary rack!
never use either nowadays though. They still sound better than my CD recorders of course.
three years ago to replace my Nak 581. GREAT deck but alass I rarely use it. I think that I'd have been better off getting a really good CD-R machine to archive my vinyl.
The ones I use regularly:TASCAM 122 3-head deck
TEAC C2x (Exactly like a TASCAM 122)
Nakamichi BX-300 3-head deckI have an Onkyo TA-2048 hooked up to my computer rig (along with a Harman Kardon 630 receiver & 3-way Sherwood speakers from the early 80s.) The Onkyo's a very nice 2-head deck.
Also there's a couple of 2-head decks that I use once in a blue moon for miscellaneous stuff like loaning to deckless friends & taping jam sessions etc. A JVC KD-V22 and a cheapo Sharp deck with only Dolby B from the mid 80s. After I tweaked the bias, eq, pitch, & azimuth, the cheap Sharp sounds surprisingly decent.
Cheers,
Bobbo :-)
nt
I don't know where I'm goin, but I'm goin nowhere in a hurry blues (S Goodman)
My system
microbiology speak for "too numerous to count"Not too many good ones, though. The best ones are a Pioneer CTF-900 and a CTF-1000. The latter has some 'issues', but it sure is attractive in that burly late 1970's way.
all the best,
mrh
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I bought my first digital audio tape recorder in 1991 and I found it was audibly superior to cassette. Therefore, I phased out my cassette capability in favor of DAT. Within the last couple of years I have switched to CD-R exclusively. I now use an Alesis ML-9600, which allows me to copy vinyl in high-resolution digital and then burn Redbook copies.Best regards,
John Elison
lots of concert tapes, even years later some of these crowd tapes sound surprisingly good.
I'm definitely a tape head. The tape acid runs thickly in my blood these days.For tape decks I run these on a regular basis:
2 x Teac v6030s 3-Head decks from 1998
Pioneer CT-F900 3-Head (1978)
Pioneer CT-F800 3-Head (1978)
Pioneer CT-F500 2-Head (1977)
2 x Pioneer CT-F212 2-Head (1975)
Sony TC-K661s (1996)
I'm pretty much a stick in the mud 2-channel analog sort of fella all round now having a real soft spot for Tapes (compact and reel), Tuners and Turntables.
The old Dual C939 did not survive the test of time. Cheap rca jacks and poor service access did it in. In its day I thought it was a fair sounding deck. But those were my mid-fi days. Today, I scoff at such things. Cassette decks were/are decidedly mid-fi, perhaps with a few exceptions. These days I'm looking in the high-end direction. No place for sound that doesn't really come alive.To bad, I still have a short sellection of classical on cassette in excellent condition. Any one interested...? Free to good home.
Now if you want to talk tape, make it RtR and how 'bout a Revox A700. That, I could go for. Not sure why. Maybe they just look cool.
-Steve
The TC is currently shelved - I should resolve that pronto, as it makes stunning recordings without Dolby (unfortunately I can 'hear' dolby at work with the later versions (tracking or not) and B is for blanket...)The 330 is a budget deck that has served well, though getting less use by the year :-(
Owen
...which I bought for $15 at a yard sale about 2 years ago. It was then fresh from servicing including new belts. I think they guy originally wanted $40 or so, but I must've been the only person who seemed at all interested because I kept trying to leave until he practically tucked it under my arm. Works great, but I tend to use my CD recorder more (Marantz DR4050). Sorry.
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I own three Nakamichis, a CR-7A, a DR-10 and an older cassette deck 2.
All the decks get regular use - I'm still a big fan of the medium.
As I work away from home on a frequent basis I have a Sony Walkman Pro/Grado RS1/Project headphone amp for travelling.
I can get hold of TDK MA-XG 90s for recording purposes fairly easily although they're discontinued(I'm sitting on a batch of 100 of these in 2 sealed crates). Probably this tape is/was the finest blank recording medium available and of course if you have a decent analogue source it's a win win situation.
Naks are great but then so are Aiwa, Arcam Delta, Denon, Kyocera, NEAL Ferrograph, Pioneer, Revox, Sony, Studer, Tandberg, Teac et al
1. a black-faced Nakamichi LX-3. This has to be one of the best two-head decks ever made. Sounds as good as I think is possible with two heads. Dolby C tracks properly on this machine once bias is properly tweaked (an easy job) but I mostly use Dolby B or else record with no noise reduction.2. a Nakamichi CR-1a. This is a better than average deck when compared to most in its price range and vintage but it is not nearly as good a machine as the LX-3. Still, it sounds good and makes fine dubs.
3. a Sony TC400S. This is a current model Sony with the amidships well and Dolby S. It is a very, very good machine - quite better than the CR-1a but less than the LX-3. Dolby S and auto tape calibration are much appreciated. With Dolby S this thing makes tapes that are virtually as quiet as a good CD. Not as "open" sounding as the LX-3. Typical of most decks, Dolby C sometimes mistracks if the tape was made on another machine. Dolby B is great, Dolby S even better. If Dolby S had been introduced 20 years ago, instead of the inferior Dolby C, the cassette format might still be going strong.
I just pick up a decent looking Sony Cassette deck a couple of weeks ago for $10.00 at a garage sale.Haven't hooked it up yet, but I have a shoebox full of old demo tapes that I haven't listened to in several years.
eso
I have a pretty average JVC dual deck. And yes, I do still on occasion make mix tapes with it.I also have a TEAC A-3340S reel-to-reel that was a gift, meant for music recording, I haven't done much with it. But it looks cool.
TCK-555ES, TCK-555ESL, TCK-777ES
Nice decks they are too! Can't resist these as they have got so cheap and Sony still sell the parts....Grins
I have a Nakamichi 500 and a 550. There's an experienced Nak technician in my area, with Nak set-up tapes and the equipment necessary to keep them in tip-top condition. They are both 2-head decks. Both measure excellent and, according to the technician, they will outperform all but a few top of the line 3-head decks. I do a little live recording with the 550, and use the 500 in my home system.
The cassete player is mostly to play my old practice tapes and to make tapes for the car.What gets much more use is my Revox A77. I ply prerecorded tapes and Record stuff occasionaly.
I also have an Otari MX5050 four track. I have not had much chance to use it yet, but its a pretty nifty peice of engineering.
I have to say that 45rpm vinyl beats the prerecorded tapes. the l2" audiophile 45s that is. The tapes have better bass, but the records have better treble.
And the frequency response is 30-20kHz. The model is KRC-435 and I love it.Happy listening,
Teresa
I bought a new car a year and a half ago, and it came with a cassette deck, so I figured what the hell, might as well make tapes.
So I bought a Nakamichi 580 from Ebay and I love the damn thing. It makes great tapes.
______________________________Even if the voices in my head aren't real, they still have some good ideas..
Pioneer CT-F2121
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I am quite happy with tape, mainly used for recording/mix tapes etc. Have not felt any great urge to get into recording to CD via computer.
I will probably try it at some point, but you can't beat a good compilation tape IMO.
Dave
I have a JVC dual transport deck with digital readout, Dolby B-C and still working after, what, 20 years? I still use casette tapes on the Kenwood dual-din console in my CR-V and one of my favorites on casette tape is Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Murder Ballads.That reminds me, I forgot to list this in my system profile :)
mt
Hehe....my 2004 Passat has a tape deck in it and when I first noticed it in the show room I was shocked. Maybe analogue formats are more popular in Germany : )
and CD in this huge square radio combination unit. The sound from the cassettes is good and the handling of the tapes seems gentle!
Our new Jetta has both - I've actually been listening *more* to old mix tapes, etc., than I have for years ... my thrift-store Onkyo kicks a**, and I've been having a cassette mini-revival in the LairBUT - it's a wagon, which the saleslady says is still made entirely in Germany, so maybe that has something to do with it ...
My MB is a wagon, too, and made in Germany but it's old: 2002.Kal
I don't know about the latest offerings as I have not kicked any new tires in a while, but I doubt too many boast about tape decks any longer. My wife does still have a working deck in her Chrysler and listens to those old tapes I made from Lps regularly. I had forgotten about her ride. I get to relive the eighties any time I drive it (:-/!
Mebbe. I would not have minded the cassette so much (I could ignore it as I do now) if they offered a CD player as an option. But, nooo, I had to install a 6disc changer just to get something I could use.I exchanged emails with MB and they said their market research indicated that their US customers preferred cassette. When I asked if they had done the research within the past 10 years, I got no answer.
Kal
The 2004 VWs came with and in-dash cd/tape deck and an optional 6-cd changer in the trunk compartment. Now I whish I hadn't turf'd all my cassets back in the early 90s, I'd be driving to work with more Beethoven, Pink Floyd and the Ramones : )
We still seem to have our "priceless cassette collection", but only one auto to play them in. I have no motivation to play them in the deck at home but who knows we may wax nostalgic one evening or the daughter will discover them and amaze her friends.
-Bill
Dave
Later Gator,
Crank up your talking machine, grab a jar of your favorite "kick-back", sit down, relax, and let the good times roll.
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