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I've discovered that vinyl recordings made on the Korg at DSD128 sound a bit better - just a bit more fluid - than with PCM at 24/192 (I've done several records both ways).
That would not be at all surprising in itself. However, there's this wrinkle: I'm playing both recordings on a (very good, resistor-ladder) PCM-only DAC, using HQPlayer to convert the DSD to 24/352 on-the-fly.
So, whatever quality that seems to be endemic to DSD survives conversion to PCM - *and still *beats* PCM on a top-line PCM DAC*.
I find this pretty interesting.
Perhaps the Korg is just naturally better at recording DSD? Any other experiences out there?
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It seems that Korg and Tascam use some interesting ADC choices and approaches to recording DSD and PCM. I am not expert on the subject but I recently bought a TASCAM UH-7000 and hesitated due to the news (I'm just reporting here) that the PCM 4202 ADC chip introduces ultrasonic noise into PCM recordings made above a 96kHz sampling rate.
The problem can be traced directly to the PCM 4202 ADC chip (used in the TASCAM DA-3000 and, perhaps, Korg unit(s) also) and I hesitated on my purchase until I verified that the UH-7000 uses a different chip (it uses the PCM 4220).
The PCM 4202 is an attractive choice due to its ability to provide DSD and PCM analog to digital conversion. I'm sure it has found its way into more than one ADC product.
I mention this because there may be some of this in your comparison. Hopefully not, but it is worth a mention.
Ed
We don't shush around here!
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof
Hi !
sorry to jump in.
If i understand rightly you have purchased the TASCAM UH-7000 ?
may i ask your opinion ?
Any alternative ?
I would like to connect it to a AD/DA converter i already have.
Thanks a lot.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 05/03/16
This is a bit off topic here but the UH-7000 is superb. I can find no faults with its sonic abilities. I don't have a lot of experience comparing it to a lot of ADCs but the UH-7000 is much better than the EMU 0404 USB that it replaced.The EMU 0404 USB was inexpensive and made some very respectable recordings but it was difficult to set the input level controls. It had very small individual input channel level controls that made setting the input levels more difficult than it should have been. The EMU's drivers were not updated after they released a Beta driver for Windows 7 and that made the 0404 USB a dinosaur that had to be replaced.
The UH-7000 has very easy to use input level controls (which cannot be over-looked) which allow precise individual channel level settings. On top of that its recordings are extremely quiet (as should be expected) and dead neutral.
If you want an ADC to add to an existing digital audio workstation, the UH-7000 does the job of recording PCM audio up to 24/192. It does not record DSD but TASCAM makes a very good stand alone recorder for that purpose.
I record at 24/192 using Sony Soundforge Audio Studio which is a capable and inexpensive DAW software solution. Soundforge is not as sophisticated as other products but the UH-7000 should be compatible with any ASIO driver DAW software solution (ProTools, Sonar, etc).
I looked at a lot of two channel digital audio interfaces and the TASCAM UH-7000 is a hard product to beat at the current asking price. I bought it from Sweetwater.com for $400 USD and, at that price, it is a easy product to recommend.
The driver package that comes with the UH-7000 includes a control panel that allows adding special effects to your recordings but these are only available for recordings made at 24/96 or lower. This was not a deal breaker for me. I only wanted a two channel digital audio interface that records at 24/192. The UH-7000 does that and includes other functionality including microphone inputs (which I do not use).
My UH-7000 is part of my main stereo rig with a Toshiba 17" laptop with an Intel i7 processor, 24 GB RAM and solid state drive storage for recording. The UH-7000 is hooked to the Toshiba laptop via a Pangea Silver USB cable (highly recommended). The input/output for recording and playback are hooked up via Kimber Hero ICs.
Ed
We don't shush around here!
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof
Edits: 05/05/16
What do you do about editing with DSD?
Can you at least edit out the lead in and the popping, etc at the end of a side?
I didn't look for a DSD adc, because of the editing limitations. I've tried converting PCM to DSD in real time with JRiver, but I don't like the results.
You can use it split recorded lp sides into tracks.
I've copied 23 LPs to DSD(128) using my TASCAM DA-3000 and I use the TASCAM Editor to split the recordings into individual tracks. Unfortunately, you can't fade out clicks and pops in-between cuts. I wish the TASCAM Editor had fade-in and fade-out functions.
Oh, well. Such is life!
Best regards,
John Elison
I've never cared about editing my vinyl rips. If replicating exactly the vinyl experience wasn't what I wanted, well, I wouldn't even be doing this.
I also wait for the needle-drop transient and start the recording right after.
Good quality vinyl that's been cleaned doesn't have pops or ticks.
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