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I've had an RP8 with Apheta for about a year that is quite a good performer. I also like the fact that it is not at all sensitive to footfalls on my suspended wood floor (it's atop a mapleshade rack).
However, I don't think it has the low-level nuance of the Basis table I had the last time I was doing vinyl. The Basis was really good at that (but also sensitive to footfalls).
Question is, if I were to isolate the Rega on something other than the 2" maple shelf, might I notice a good improvement in this regard? Relatedly I would really not want something that would make the system sensitive to footfalls (small kids running around).
Thanks!
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Have a look at the HRS Isolation Bases.
A friend of mine is using one for his Rega turntable and it works very well.
Hi Paul,
It wouldn't surprise me if the maple slab is attenuating some
micro-life in the presentation.
Can you get your paws on a Townshend Audio seismic sink?
Alternatively, I do have a 18x14 Neuance platform in the closet.
You could borrow it if you can't source one elsewhere. I haven't
used it since I went to the GPA Monaco Modular system in 2005.
Holly Hippodaze!
If you don't become the ocean, you'll be seasick every day.
- Leonard Cohen
Hey ae,
That is a very nice gesture. Much appreciated. But, since the Neuance owner has offered a new platform, I think I will snatch that up. Bound to at least retain value.
The Townshend shelves look very nice also - actually this is close to what I originally had in mind re "adding suspension" to the Rega. I see they are not cheap, but if a design like that was cheap, it wouldn't be good. I may give one of those a whirl as well.
A box of sand or sand/lead is great, but not always possible.
One option that might work is large sorbothane feet - I use 2.5" hemispheres for a Thorens 125. They seem to be pretty effective at absorbing low-freq vibrations from the surface they rest on. At least they are a cheap and easy option, so if they don't work, you're not out much. Get 'em on ebay.
WW
"A man need merely light the filaments of his receiving set and the world's greatest artists will perform for him." Alfred N. Goldsmith, RCA, 1922
BPoletti, you may be right about that, Basis tables are super, BUT dealing with footfall issues is another set of headaches with them (can't do wall rack). Also for the price they should be. The Rega is really pretty good though. Way way better than older/lesser Rega.
I would think that if you are having isolation issues that you bought the wrong turntable for your listening room. This is not meant to be critical, but to point out that the room and it idiosyncrasies must always be taken into account for every purchase. For this reason room error correction has become a big deal for home theater enthusiasts, and a less that totally stable floor must be considered for any turntable purchase...I would think.
Jim Tavegia
I actually stated that I am not having footfalls issues, and, other than that, I'm not sure what sort of room-related problems you might have in mind. In fact, there are no adverse problems at all - the system sounds great. I'm just stating that low-level nuance may not be what I recall from my Basis table, and that, since that is a suspended table and suspended tables seem to excel at such things, perhaps "adding" suspension via one method or another might help.
(Take a look at Fremer's article on the Minus K website for some thoughts on "adding" suspension to a non-suspended table... I am not looking to spend that kind of money, however.)
I tried all kinds of things to isolate my table. That includes hanging it, 2 inch maple, sand box with innertube, cones, balls, packing sheet with bubbles, shelf liner, and the list goes on. Put your table on a wall shelf with two 1 inch MDF sheets. So, first sheet on the spikes with the other sheet separated by shelf liner, I used Herbies Fat Dots, then your table on top. I have since got rid of the third sheet of MDF with no ill effects. This cured all of my isolation problems after years of frustration! And you do not have to remortgage the house.
Cheers, Doug
I cannot do a wall shelf. I would if I could, but, actually that is not the type of issue (low-frequency vibration) I am looking to solve. As I said I have NO footfall issues. Rather, I'm looking to essentially suspend the table so as to better drain the minute vibrations that can mask low-level detail, WITHOUT creating low-freq issues in the process.
1. Ken Lyon's Neuance platform (not just for Rega decks).
2. Rega wall shelf.
3. Ikea Lack table.
Opus 33 1/3
Edits: 11/26/15
Thanks for the Neuance reference - hadn't heard of them - seem to be out of biz though.
If interested, I have available (1) 18"x 14" and (1) 19"x 15" Neuance A platforms nearing completion that are ideally suited (as well as philosophically aligned) to augment and optimize the performance of your Rega turntable.I also have the ability to produce (2)Neuance B and (1)Neuance C for heavier weight components in sizes up to 19" x 16".
These are brand new, final generation Neuance platforms, not used or NOS and represent the very last Neuance platforms that will ever become available. Cost will be US$210.oo each plus shipping to your address.
As I closed shop some years ago, I no longer require maintaining material inventory to cover warranty/repair issues and that has allowed this limited batch of Neuance platforms to become available.
Please feel free to contact me thru the AA messaging service to secure any platforms that you might require or to answer any questions you have regarding the product.
Best Regards,
Ken Lyon
GreaterRanges/Neuance
Edits: 11/28/15
As they say, PM sent.
Opus 33 1/3
Or, for MUCH less than the cost of an effective isolation that would bring that Rega up to the same level as the Basis, one could get another Basis and a Rolls Royce Silver Shadow.IOW, It will never perform up to the level of the Basis.
Edits: 11/26/15
I used to sell that rack back in the day
ET
A sealed wooden box filled with sand.
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"Use adjectives instead of numbers, and you'll never be wrong again." ~ The Wizard of Audio Oz
Please lend me some of your magical thoughts so I can think vintage is wonderful, too.
massive mounts like a maple slab are anathema to proper siting of Rega tables.
Good luck with the hunt!
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