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This is something I've been thinking about for a while. I have a few manual tables about which I am sufficiently happy.The thing is that I do most of my listening while working, and I usually don't have time to get up to change records. That is normally OK, as I listen to records in shorter, more focused sessions. Most of the time there are of course other convenient digital sources and radio to play. However, what never gets played are large lp box sets I've collected of mostly classical music--operas, symphonies, etc. These are evidently made for changers, with sequential parts on different discs. Whether or not changers cause some audible wear, I would like actually to hear some of this music, and listening to stacks of several records would really be very convenient.
Aside from some obvious classics such as the nicer Duals and Elacs, or cheap tables by BSR or BIC, I am wondering whether there are any nice "sleeper" options. I am looking for something that would be inexpensive (less than the nicer Duals?), sound decent, be generally reliable and be less likely to need maintenance. Also a table that uses universal headshells would be terrific, as I have accumulated a lot of cartridges to try. Perhaps there are some Japanese tables to look for, even with direct drive, besides Technics (SL 1350?).
Thanks for any suggestions.
David
Edits: 04/18/14Follow Ups:
Thanks again to everyone for their advice. I went ahead and bought a Technics SL-1650 on eBay, and will report back on the results.
By the way, would a spherical stylus be good for the varying VTA?
I am hopeful about actually listening to various classical box sets I've accumulated, rather than just preserving them for future owners! The manual tables will be for the better and shorter stuff.
David
The Jukebox. There was a time, and for a long time, they were everywhere. 45 players, mostly. And they could rock.
-Steve
nt
The venerable Thorens TD 224
Opus 33 1/3
Now I want one of these. Way better for music than a cell phone.
One really cool piece of machinery! Apparently, only about 4,000 were ever made.
Edits: 04/19/14
Neat ... but I gotta say the sound of the drop of the record removed after play is a little scary.
:)
Never trust an Atom, they Make Up everything!
A record changer was a good idea when the only format available was vinyl. Changers are not very gentle on your vinyl collection and, in my opinion, it is a better idea to convert those collections into digital and use a jukebox player to listen to those records in that format.
I know this is a vinyl forum but we are LP lovers and record changers are not friends of our collection.
I don't want to get into a "which changers are better than others" discussion. Its just that an automatic changer turntable does put more wear on the LPs center hole and increases the odds that something could go wrong handling your LPs.
Its up to you but, to me, I would rather digitize my LP collection instead of spinning them on a changer.
Maybe its just me but somehow I doubt I'm alone in this opinion.
Ed
We don't shush around here!
Life is analog...digital is just samples thereof
Both to be avoided.
I shop for used Lps. Mainly the old Classical one can see a curved scratch from a record changer on them.
Then my first good TT was a Garrard Lab80 which di stretch out the spindle hole. Enough so some of my favorite records would no longer 'work' with the changer as the holes were already too big for it's action.
I have a record changer that plays BOTH SIDES of up to 6 records automatically without any user intervention. Don't think I'd call this 'table a sleeper though it is a mechanical marvel.
technics SL-1350, SL-1360, SL-1650, SL-1950, are some of the best changers ever made imho. technics also made some that sold under the MCS brand and those are total sleepers!
-andre d
I agree with the poster that some of the BIC's also seem good, like the classic changers. The idea of a removable headshell, however, really appeals to me. I'll keep my eyes pealed for a deal on one of these Technics. With regard to the comments about wear (just don't have time to digitize), I think it is partly because I understand this project as kind of experiment, that I am looking for an inexpensive player or "sleeper." I assume that the Technics would be one of the better engineered and gentler changers? One of my neighbors actually had one of the MCS branded changers they had been trying to sell in a garage sale. I think they may still have it, but I am not sure which is their house. A JC Penny component would really complete the system!
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were/are not "cheap". They are excellent, great sounding tables. These include the 1000, 981, 980, 960, and 940.
Doug
I'm not personally aware of any killer changers, but it stands to reason that changers made by some of the better brands could be decent and might be an end run around the collector market if you're willing to modify the table for best performance.
nt
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