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Hi
Did anybody have a chance to hear these or - even better - compare them to familiar old pressings? If so, what are the comments? I think they have put out only three so far - Dark Side, Wish and the Wall
Thx
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Update: Received it today. It came in damaged. There is an indent in the outer shipping box, a dent on the rear of the record cover, and the record itself is CRACKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH!!!!
Great! Now I have to shell out my money for shipping the stupid thing back, and then pay another shipping to get a replacement. I have totally lost faith in the ability of the stores to do proper packaging, and the ability of USPS to ship without damage.
From what I could hear in the part beyond the crack, it sounds very quiet, and doesn't sound bad at all, but a lot "dryer" than any of my analog copies...
Packaging job is impressive
Oh well...
Mark
That sucks about the damage. Do try to get another copy.
For reference, I only have the 30th Anniversary DSOTM and I believe the second UK pressing of The Wall, so I won't be able to help much with regard to comparisons.
I just received my new/re-issued copies of The Wall and Wish You Were Here on Monday from trusty ol Soundstage Direct. I've had some time with them now. I was very excited to try these out. I spun both albums on my Well Tempered Amadeus and was really very pleased. Both are extremely nice looking, shiny pressings (unlike many jazz and alternative rock re-issues I've purchased lately, whereby there are faded or 'blotchy' areas of the surface when viewed in the sunlight), and are very, very quiet; I didn't experience any noise whatever, nor did I hear a 'pop', which was quite refreshing.
I thought the sonics were excellent on both. I always liked the quality of my other Wall copy (it is in extremely good condition, even if the cover leaves much to be desired), but this one isn't embarrassed in the least. I think these re-issues are well worth the purchase, no doubt.
Thank you for your input!
I still have not heard from the seller store, and they have 3 days to respond before I will have to file a claim with Amazon. Meanwhile, it is still in my possession and I could listen to the undamaged parts (about half of it)
As reissues go, it is not bad at all. A bit dry, a bit lifeless, certainly diminished dynamics, analog to digital - back to analog at work here. The emotion and the feel, and a lot of midrange is gone, probably filtered out as "unwanted colorations". Nearly the same critique I wrote about the 30th Anniv. DSOTM, but this one is a bit better. And "no cigar," compared to even my second issue US. King here is the UK SQ version, with it's huge transparent sound, earth-shaking bass, but which has a totally different mix, so comparison is probably unfair (a shabby copy just sold on Ebay for $80, so unobtanium). So my vote goes to UK first and second press, of course. Followed by the US and Swede pressings. But, this one is the only WYWH vinyl available new and dead quiet today, so there is no argument if you must have one. The question is - why? Why master an LP from a digital source? I'm sure the double conversion has a bad effect on sound, so any digital medium would probably sound better (anathema!). In this case, apart from excellent packaging, and the time machine factor - like being back in 1976 - I don't see any reason for this vinyl to exist... My yellow jacketed Japanese issue CD is certainly more pleasant to listen to. Just my two cents. If I ever get a replacement, I will definitely keep it for the two above-mentioned sentiments.
Analogue Equipment:
Goldmund table - Dynavector 505 arm - AT OC9ML II, AT33PTG, Madrigal Carnegie I carts - Signal cable - MFA Luminescence A-1 pre w/phono (modded/updated to near-C status)
Digital:
Pioneer Stable Platter drive - Curcio tube DA converter - MFA Luminescence
Power:
Two Classe DR-9 bi-amping Infinity 4.5 modified speakers
Excellent post here. Agree about the dynamics comments, though they're not bad. I do wonder about the A-to-D-to-A...good point, indeed. Unfortunately, most every 'newer' indie-type band puts out an LP using this process these days, so it makes me wonder why they bother pressing an LP in the first place (or why I bother to buy them, more to the point). That said, I often compare the CD to LP of these same albums, and the LPs nearly almost always have the best sense of 'immediacy', 'weight' and 'intimacy' into the recording. So, I guess that's why I buy them...I think; and I hope I don't do it just for the interaction of the medium, but I'm certain that's part of it. Another part is that my vinyl rig is just so much better than my digital, so I somewhat blindly go into a listening session half-expecting that, too.
Nice equipment by the way.
I have to agree,
My new copy of The Wall just sounds a bit flat. I much prefer my UK Harvest copy, even with all the cracks and pops, it just has so much more dynamics.
The new copy is quiet and sounds OK, but I was expecting better.
I read some comments on the 30th aniverary DSOTM suggesting it also was not very good, but I only have a poor copy to compare it to so I thought the 30th aniversary copy was very good. Time to search for a good original copy maybe.
Thanks to all! Waiting for my new Wish re-issue. It will have to face some tough competition(albeit all of mine are pretty used and have varying amount of noise): US first press (sounds very good but some surface noise and even one skip); US second press (souds only OK but little noise); UK first press (sounds great but fair amount of noise); UK SQ second press (sounds great but fair amount of noise); Sweden late 80's (very little noise but sounds only so-so)
Call me carezy :-)
I have new pressings of The Wall, Dark Side of the Moon, and Wish You Were Here. I'd say they generally are high quality, and better than a typical used record.
I have a well preserved MFSL Dark Side pressing that kicks the new one's butt, but the new one stomps about everything else.
Buy and enjoy! :)
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad"
I purchased the wall reissue. It is a quiet pressing. If I didn't have a Japanese pressing of the wall I wouldn't know how lackluster the reissue dynamics are. The Japanese pressing is amazing in this department.
My favorite pressing of the three I have is the Japanese pressing also. I just have to remember to crank it up as it's mastered at a lower level than a lot of my collection.
"Everyone has a plan — until they get punched in the face" - Mike Tyson
See ya. Dave
My Wish reissue is excellent and I've heard good things about the Wall.
I got the 30th Anniversary DSOTM which is very laid back sounding... Not sure how new one compares...
I really hope they decide to do Animals and Meddle.
...is "The Wall", and it kicks ass! I can only compare it to a noisy Canadian pressing and a CD, but it stomps all over both of those. Huge dynamics and great feeling of space. Lots of fun!
Thx! I think I'm going to get one
You guyz are gonna hate me.
I have original Pink Floyd LPs of Meddle, Wish, Umma, Animals.
Sadly, I only have Dark Side on tape. (Good tape.)
They are some musicians, fer sure.
:)
Now I gotta pull one out and play it!!
No hate here!
I also have some originals, and some later re-presses, as well as pressings from different countries. But I wish I had a brand spanking new record that would sound great!
BTW, which Dark Side tape do you have? I mean what label?
Sorry, I don't know. I might have been stoned at the time.All I know is that it's on Maxell tape with the blue/black box, "LH" I think, definitely not UD, which, in hindsight, kinda pisses me off.
Still, at least, I've got it.
:)
Edit: Oh, and my Revox does a nice job of playing it. :)
Edits: 08/07/12
Stoned to Dark Side is almost a must :-)
I was asking because if it was an original MFSL tape, it is worth some decent money today
M
"if it was an original MFSL tape, it is worth some decent money today"
It wouldn't matter. I have very few albums that I'd ever sell, and that's not one of them. When I buy something, it's pretty much a permanent possession (sp?). On the other hand, I've got a trumpet, a telescope and a tripod mount that I'd like to replace.
Oh, and a Neil Diamond album I'll sell ya for free, plus $10 shipping.
I am NOT giving up my vintage Marvin Gaye "Let's Get It On", so don't even ask.
:)
I have WYWH. It's at least as good as the SACD, and better than a late-70s LP I have.
I have Wish You Were Here and The Wall, I do not have originals to compare..............both sound good and have excellent sonics. Both also had pops and ticks that after a thourough cleaning and steam cleaning are now very mild. I still feel like so called audiophile vinyl should be quiet as many of my other reissues are.
I have a great over 30 year old copy of DSOTM on MFSL so I never bought DSOTHM and many said it was not well done and very noisy
I bought the DSOTM re-issue and mine was dead quiet. Sound quality is excellent, but it sounds like a different mix to my original Harvest copy.
Marky P
Hi Dreamcatcher
Thank you
I might just try the WYWH
I am also very intrigued by your mention of "steam cleaning". Can you elaborate please? Or point me to some info on line? Sometimes I feel that my VPI 16.5 does not do a very thorough job
M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mnGwmtSG6U&feature=plcp
this is my cleaning process
That's cool! Question: where does one get a steam cleaning apparatus? And what does exactly steam cleaning accomplish? is it warm or hot? Any chance of damaging the records? In one video on Utube somebody is using anti-mold stuff, I didn't catch the name of it. Do you know anything about that? I will have to search here as well...
Thanks!
I tried Premier, i felt it was way to expensive. iT'S 20 BUCKS but doesnt last long. The Vinyl Care Solutions Super Enzme cleaner costs 20 bucks but makes 2 gallons of cleaner
Thx!
I bought the steam cleaner at Amazon.com it's a DB TECH. I have found no problem with warping...........mine seems to be medium hot. I found the label cover on ebay it's a part from a product called Vinyl Stack.
I like using it in the early cleaning stage and then again just before my final rinse. It has really helped with new vinyl too with my record care solutions liquid with the super enzyme. and now I just started adding a drop of Jet Dry to my rinse water too.
I think when we leave the cleaning fluid on the record, the steam mostly warms the fluid up, although there is some steam pressure exerted. I couldn't tell if you had a wide angle nozzle or a narrow one -- I use the narrow and leave it on a bit longer than in your demo. I tried the steaming after the rinse but didn't stay with that step.
I also use a much more sudsy cleaner, Disc Doctor, then steam, then a less sudsy cleaner (DIY) and finally distilled water. My thoughts are that each cleaning stage cleans both the dirt and the previous cleaning fluid residue.
Thx!
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