|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
173.28.177.136
In Reply to: RE: humble Hubbell 5262 posted by madisonears on September 11, 2016 at 22:19:24
It's a very good duplex receptacle. It leans a little to the warm side of neutral, imo. Contact holding pressure is less than that found with the old stock Compact series 8200H (15 amp) or 8300H (20 amp) compact Hospital grade duplex receptacle. The 8200H/8300H are more neutral sounding imo.
Where as the actual contacts on the 5262 are rated for 20 amps the neutral contact behind the 15 amp face plate does not have the "T" slot configuration like the (edit) 5362. If you are anal about scratching the neutral blade on a high dollar 15 amp plug the 5262 will not scratch it up like the (Edit)5362 might/will.
See page 6 in link below. I believe this is what you bought.
HBL Extra Heavy Duty Industrial Series.
(Wide body)Look at page 10 for the HBL Compact Extra Heavy Duty series duplex receptacle.
The old stock Compact Extra Heavy Duty, 8200H and 8300H hospital grade duplex receptacles, are getting hard to find anymore. Still lots of the wide body nickel plated 8200 and 8300 hospital grade duplex receptacles out there. IMO, they do not sound as good as the old stock compact HBL8200H/8300H receptacles.
Edits: 09/15/16Follow Ups:
Jea, Looks like you meant to compare the 15A HBL5262 to the 20A HBL5362 with the T bar difference. I use the HBL5362 and found them anything but bright. Have you compared the HBL5262 with the almost same HBL5362 and found any difference in sound? T456
Tweaker said:
Jea, Looks like you meant to compare the 15A HBL5262 to the 20A HBL5362 with the T bar difference. I use the HBL5362 and found them anything but bright. Have you compared the HBL5262 with the almost same HBL5362 and found any difference in sound? T456
jea48 said:
It's a very good duplex receptacle. It leans a little to the warm side of neutral, imo. Contact holding pressure is less than that found with the old stock Compact series 8200H (15 amp) or 8300H (20 amp) compact Hospital grade duplex receptacle. The 8200H/8300H are more neutral sounding imo.
Where as the actual contacts on the 5262 are rated for 20 amps the neutral contact behind the 15 amp face plate does not have the "T" slot configuration like the (edit)5362. If you are anal about scratching the neutral blade on a high dollar 15 amp plug the 5262 will not scratch it up like the (edit)5362 might/will.
Tweaker456,
I didn't say the HBL5262 or the HBL 5362 were "bright" sounding at all. I said they sound/lean a little warm from neutral sounding. To my ears there is not any difference in sound heard, through my audio system, between the HBL 5262 (15 amp rated) and the 5362 (20 amp rated) duplex receptacle.
Both duplex receptacle contacts are housed in the exact same deeper body with only a different NEMA configured face plates. Both use the same non plated brass back strap.On the other hand,
The comparisons I was attempting to make was the differences in sound between the HBL5262/5362 and the old stock Compact series HBL8200H/8300H hospital grade duplex receptacle that uses a slimmer body to house the contacts. (Note the contacts in the 8200H are the same as the 8300H. Only the NEMA face plate configuration are different. The difference between with hospital grade is a beefier equipment grounding contact and greater hot and neutral contact holding power of the plug blades.
You can buy other Hubbell Compact Extra Heavy Duty Series Duplex receptacles other than just the hospital grade.
(See page 10 of the Link below.)
Sound of the HBL8200/8300 hospital grade duplex receptacle is more neutral sounding than the warmer sounding HBL5262/5362 receptacle, jmho....Hope I made myself clearer.
Jim
Edits: 09/15/16 09/15/16 09/15/16 09/27/16
Thanks for the response. It was the OP that thought the 5262 was a little bright so the reason I asked about the difference between the 5262 and the 5362, the 5362 being a warmish full sounding with a forward midrange device, IME. Just what I was looking for. Sometimes I recommend things to people and when they were talking about like $6 for the 5262 I wanted to know about it. I did not see any 5 or 6 dollar 5262's. The price for both seem about the same. Maybe I missed it. It's the all brass contacts that people "should" be looking for in the Hubbells I suspect. T456
Edits: 09/16/16
Maybe I missed it. It's the all brass contacts that people "should" be looking for in the Hubbells I suspect. T456
If you are comparing the HBL5262/5362 duplex receptacle to the everyday residential grade or an average commercial spec grade receptacle there is a lot more to the Hubbell receptacle than just the brass contacts.
The surface area and thickness of the brass contacts.
The material used for the body that holds the contacts in place. The bracing and thickness of the material used. Most residential grade and many commercial spec grade receptacle bodies are made of plastic. The Hubbell uses a deep nylon design. That includes the face plate.
The metal used for the mounting back strap. Residential and most commercial spec grade receptacles the back straps are made from galvanized steel. The Hubbell is made of heavy brass.
The Hubbell is built like a tank.
Edits: 09/16/16
And don't forget, very good sounding. It seems to get rated as just mid-fi and as among the better receptacles. Any opinion on that Jea?
And don't forget, very good sounding. It seems to get rated as just mid-fi and as among the better receptacles. Any opinion on that Jea?
Sorry, my experience has been limited to non audio grade receptacles. I have learned, because what I have learned from members here on AA, that all receptacles do not sound alike. That a steel ferrous back strap degrades the sound compared to a non ferrous back strap, like brass. When I first read posts here on AA my first thought was these guys are nuts.... So the logical thing to do was to prove or disprove their claims.
At the time I was using Leviton 8300 hospital grade duplex receptacles. A very good highly respected receptacle in the electrical industry. The Leviton 8300 has non plated brass contacts with great holding pressure resistance like the Hubbell 8300H hospital grade duplex receptacle. So what's the big difference between the two? The Leviton has a galvanized steel back strap. What possible difference could that make? Well it does.
And how do I know? From experimenting and listening for myself.
Just a few of the members I learned from here on AA about mains receptacles, receptacle cover plates, and power cords:
Duster
The late Al Sekela
The late rcrump
Jon Risch
alan m. kafton
bartc
There are many, many more.
Image: Bare Phosphor Bronze Contacts
I was fortunate enough to find the first trickle of a no longer available bare phosphor bronze contact version of an Asian-sourced AC outlet based on the Furutech GTX design that is also similar to the new Cardas and AudioQuest AC outlets. For $19, it performs substantially better than any bare brass hardware store variety AC outlet, IME. While the still-available gold plated version is more than satisfactory for non-critical and second-system applications (there is also a rhodium plated version I have no experience of), I find the bare phosphor bronze version to be a superior sounding build.
Comparing the most commonly used alloys, the conductivity of brass is higher than the conductivity of phosphor bronze, but both are still much lower than that of copper.
I have found Porter Ports run from dedicated lines with 10awg Romex to work well in my system, but I have been a little curious whether I would hear a difference with the R1 or GTX outlets.
The Porter Ports are cryo'ed Hubbel HBL5362 special order unplated brass outlets.
Post a Followup:
FAQ |
Post a Message! |
Forgot Password? |
|
||||||||||||||
|
This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our sponsors: