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My current power amps are rebuilt LEAK Stereo 20s. They are no longer .125V for 16W in UL possibly twice that, but still and all.
I note that the Behringer can adjust for these levels, so it's just an issue for the 4LR xovers I am looking at. I'd be buying two to do 3-way, plus subs eventually below 40hz.
Any users of pro 4LR xovers?
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Timothy Bailey
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Knowing a bit about what goes into an electronic crossover, I think you are treading on pretty thin ice here. Think of the most hair-brained little cheap 8 pin dual op-amps and multiply that by 16 and you are about there.
Look into Marchand. I started there and moved on to an Erno Borbely fully discrete crossover. Built from a kit the Borbely was over $1,000 for a 2 way and I can say that quality matters here. Awesome.
Spend as much as you are capable on a 2 way and do the high crossover passive to make 3 way. More Op-Amps is not more better.
Hi Chris,
I thought as much.
The Marchand you built? was it tube or IC chip?
What about the DEQ2496? If NO!!!!!!! ....
Does anyone make a decent parametric equaliser to go up to about 600Hz / 1Khz with about 5 eq'rs or more? Used?
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Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
I built crossovers based on the X1 and the X9, 2-ways and 3-ways. They hiss and there was not much you could do about it. They also tended to sound like op-amps even when plugging in some rather expensive Analogue Devices chips.
The pro stuff are basically tools to solve a problem, not necessarily intended to be the last word in resolution. However, for $300 (here in the U.S.) it would be worth a try to see how it goes, it might be kind of fun.
I have a tube based 3rd order crossover board that I have still sitting in a file folder based on a S. Bench design. I will have to dig it out to see what it sounds like. Additionally, Pete's board looks really interesting (See Link).
Separate PSU which can also be tweaked.
Add PLLs and it can be used for 3rd order, perhaps even kneed slopes for the bass to mid (450 Hz or lower) and as you suggested, 1st order (PLLs) for the 6kHz Hp and LP.
I might try to avoid using the 2nd order HP path by allowing the sealed mid encl. to do that slope, getting 3rd with a PLL. Prima face this might sound more transparent but I'm aware that I would be putting the WR driver into power limiting. I'll have to listen to and measure both. I'd prefer to cross at or above the smaller sphere's BDS -3db point (~ 400 hz?) and thus avoid having to Eq for it, which makes the cascaded filter up around 400Hz more likely.
I don't suppose the small sphere's current sealed 150Hz 2nd-order high-pass roll-out will create in-phase-matching issues around the 400 point, will it? measure and listen?
WR drivers used as mids can certainly have their advantages, in a 3-way.
I'll be using two of the larger 8inch driver Rb spheres below, one facing down slot-loaded, and one above in a cut-down basketball hoop, on a height adjustable column. This array should fill-in the floor-bounce dip and extend the bass of the floor loaded port, a bit.
The smaller sphere with the 5" WR driver will also be held in place by another cut-down hoop and on the same column.
Thanks Chris.
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Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
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