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In Reply to: RE: stranded wire???? posted by drlowmu on December 07, 2016 at 07:00:51
Hi Jeff.
I've been reading some of your posts recently and I have to wonder why you are obsessed with an amps bandwidth when you use a speaker that has no low bass and not very extended highs. The VOTT is well known to be a great mid-range reproducer but no amplifier will squeeze sound out of those speakers that they aren't capable of reproducing. Piling extra weight on the box won't extend the bass in the 828 cab and choosing different caps and wiring won't let those highs come through the 802/811 combo.
Dynamics, yes. Full range sound, no. So what's the point?
Not that someone in our age bracket should be concerned about frequency extremes anyway.
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No one, except ME so far, has ever heard a VOTT can do, with MY amp on it ! :-) I THINK I may have a " NEW Ball Game ", on hand here. But its difficult to be objective with your own builds. We will see, or hear in the near future !!!!
Its taken me three amp builds, last two years, to FINALLY become happy with my ALTECS. Two DC Type 45 amps, which had a broad, shallow mid range suck out, ( no one wants to acknowledge ), and now, this JJ 2A3-40 as a final and, at last, an enjoyable solution.
Kyle, even if we only hear narrow band, as we age, the amp has to be able to play the highs realistically and honestly, for us to hear the MIDRANGE properly.
I feel there are resultants on high, that come down the scale into the midrange. As we age, we hear those resultants, and judge easily what sounds real or canned.
I recall Bob Fulton, in about 1983 give or take, tell me about an 80+ year old woman on his Listening Panel, who couldn't hear a watch tick, and had 'nada above 5K. One day, Bob removed the fuse from is tweeter section's highest-playing driver, maybe, lets say, 32 K on up to 100K, and the Old Woman blurted out to Bob " What Happened To The Highs ".
See Kyle, we aging "experienced listeners" have hope !! :-)
Merry Christmas.
Jeff Medwin
I totally agree with you as regards the importance of a good HF response, even for those of us with old ears, but in the end, the speaker has to be able to reproduce those frequencies, not just the amplifier. Albeit, the amp has to be able to drive the speaker, of course. I am only saying that there are many discussions here, some led by yourself, that seem to pivot on the amplifier as the be all and end all.
The Fulton Premiere speaker, depending upon year and model number, had a frequency response of 12HZ to 100 KHz, and it was likely one of the widest bandwidth speakers ever engineered.
The saying " amps are the weakest link ", is not originally mine, but was that of Robert W. Fulton, to me, in many conversations. Just as was " an inch of bad wire can ruin the musical experience ". In both cases, IMHO, RWF was right on.
Jeff
Right on jeffery!! thats why I am building gm70 to power my large fultons :)
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