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In Reply to: RE: The Free Energy Motor, Laws of Physics & Vanity posted by Neff on April 18, 2012 at 19:24:23
For those interested in this kind of researches I recommend this site.
I have only built and tested the 'lifter': IT REALLY WORKS!
http://jnaudin.free.fr/
Best Regards
Luca
ecc230
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I have also built and analyzed the lifter. Actually the thruster but it's the same principle.
The operating mechanism is based on one electrode having a sharp radius (the wire) and another electrode having a flat surface disposed axially such that when a voltage gradient close to the breakdown voltage is applied between the 2 electrodes, ions are created by the sharp electrode (wire) and accelerated in a nearly laminar stream by the flat electrode. The ions of the opposite polarity are at the same time repelled, but in a wide pattern. The net vector produces thrust and the reaction force propels the electrode set in the direction toward the wire (regardless of polarity).
There is a unit on the market which uses this principle to circulate and clean the air at the same time. I think it's called the ion breeze or ionic breeze. There is a patent I came across while doing the research which describes the mechanism and some optimizations e.g. AC voltage to maximize the ratio of circulation to ion production and reduce ozone production.
It seems like anti-gravity or magic until you work it through.
NASA has found that the thrust of 'asymmetric capacitos' (as the lifter) can be measured in vacuum...
They were granted a patent for this.
Best Regards
Luca
ecc230
The Naudin style thruster I built (rotary style) produced great thrust but produced zero thrust when a simple triangular blocking plate made of thin polycarbonate was added about 1 inch behind each thruster.
That's good enough for me...
If by NASA patent you're talking about the gravitec thing, can you point to a patent number?
On November 13, 2001, the NASA patent US 6,317,310 " Apparatus and Method for generating a thrust using a two dimensional asymmetrical capacitor module " was granted.
ecc230
Here's the NASA technical report on asymmetric capacitors. They conclude that ionization and ion collisions are responsible for the observed thrust, and that only spurious mechanisms could cause thrust in a vacuum.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEoQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcourses.ece.ubc.ca%2F474%2FHandouts%2FGood_Examples%2FNASA_technical_report_example.pdf&ei=FFiUT9CAIIWciALNkJEt&usg=AFQjCNGEuqFu3qjGObiDLwtEVTIJ_muoug&sig2=9WC9Z4wJpTYJVeC0w-Ds0g
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