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Well... I pretty much decided between these 2 speakers. I heard the Dunlavys today and was petty impressed. The image was nice.. kind of high up like being on-stage. Very refined sounding, neutral. A speaker I could live with... On the other hand... the Vonschweikert VR-6 has an amazing sound... very detailed with a huge soundstage.
VSR is out of business.. but all the drivers.. are readily available.
Sigh... I could easily live with either one... the question is which..
I would like to hear your comments if you have any. I might be overlooking
something and would appreciate any comments (except from auph).
I don't need any useless advice or remarks.
Thanks
mike
Although the Pass Model Two sounds quite good with the Dunlavy, I haven't heard another solid state (or hybrid) amp that sounds good with them to my ear. This includes the Lamm 2.1 (haven't tried the 1.1). The Dunlavy's, however, excel with tube amplification. The CJ Premier 11 sounds terrific as does the BAT VK 60 and even the Golden Tube SE40.
The Dunlavys are also extremely picky about speaker cables, interconnects and upstream components. The Dunlavys are not forgiving loudspeakers and are definitely not "buy them and forget it" loudspeakers. When you get everything right, however, beauty, bliss and many transcendental moments await you.
thanks for the advice.. but I am gettint the VR-6's and not the Dunlavys..
They did sound very good with the BAT VK-60 and VK-50 pre.
mike
If possible you really do need to try them at home, given the investment. When you mentioned the height of the ss with the Dunlavy's, I did wonder how it would wear over time. Either way, agonize for while, buy them, agonize some more, and then enjoy :-)
Based upon your post, it seems like you enjoyed listening to the VS more than the Dunlavy. Thus, if you can purchase the VR-6 for dealer cost or less ($6,000?), I would take that route. Then again, if you can get a decent discount on the Dunlavy, the warranty issue may tip the scale the other way. Even though you are looking at speakers costing over $5,000, I would try to audition the new Magnepan 3.6. You may prefer it over the VR-6 and Dunlavy!
How do your VR-4 compare to the VR-6? Since the VR-6 retailed for $12,000, and the VR-4 retailed for approximately $4,000, it would be interesting to hear just how wide the performance gap is between them.
Both speakers are state-of-the-art designs, so why not let your spouse choose the one she like's best-sonically and/or aesthetically.
Thanks for the advice.. I briefly heard the VR-6's when I was at CES. I usually don't get involved in items I can't afford! They did sound great, but I didn't really get involved as I knew I would walk away hurting..
I think I could live with either one... the SC-IV's retail for $8700 with the optional finish.. the VR-6's used to cost $12,500 retail.
I am leaning towards the VR-6's at this point in time. I only wish I could have more time with each one.. but that is not to be.. Either way I should be VERY happy...
Thanks!
mike
Mikem,
I've been monitoring your new speaker quest for a few days, and I have a thought. If you buy the VR-6's, the worst case is that you lose a driver
or 2.(very unlikly) The cost to get replacements probably would not be that
high.(at least to someone considering $9k speakers) Even if a crossover failed,(less likely) you could surely find someone to rebuild it.
My point is that I would not even hesitate to purchase these speakers if
you can get them near half price. This is said without bias for either speaker as I have heard neither, rather the fact that even if you need a repair to the VSR's, the cost of owning them is no where near the price of entry had they not closed shop.
BTW, the reason I paid particular attention was because I was curious to see if you were going to sell the VR-4's, though I might try to "snag" 'em.
Good luck
Well, it's hard to think you could go too wrong with either. Can you audition both at home? It seems to me that the decision comes down to which works best in your room with your gear.
The VRs are likely at a great price and if they work, warranty doesn't seem to be a big concern. Of course, resale will be less too if you ever sell them. Your son will likely talk you out of then first ;)
Not sure how the Dunlavy's will be with the Llano. It might have you looking at tube amps. That could be fun.
Sorry Mike, that's the best I can do.
I'm not familiar with the VRs.
I can assure you that the Dunlavys favor tubes.
I really do have to agree with Mike P.
If there is any way possible, you have
got to get both systems into your house.
This is a major expense. Consider the
costs of shipping, etc., as insurance.
Your advice has always been level headed and useful in the past.. this is no exception. I am leaning towards the VR-6's.. my wife just throws her hands up in the air and says I'm hopeless... shes right again!
But life is short and I sure do enjoy my music...
When I was demoing the dunlavys today, they guy matched up gear similar to mine so I could get a good idea of what they would sound like. He used a
BAT VK-200 for the amp, A VK-40 for the pre.. Well after about ten minutes, the amp started breaking up on the right channel! So he move the cables to the BAT VK-60.. in about 15 minutes an output tube went south!
LOL... and I got the VK5i... but mine works great!.. so far!!!!
thanks again!
mike
Geez, do they ever test that stuff? Actually Stereo Unlimted usually has had the VK-5i matched with a Classe CA-200 in the past. It seems like it's the BAT amps that don't like to run too long.......
Has anyone heard a VK-60 for more than 30 minutes?
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