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Found it very interesting but I wish they'd a pair of Stirling LS3/5a's on hand for a direct compare.
I'm tempted to order a pair for the Brit speakers museum I seem to have going.
Waiting for the importer to send me pics of the veneer.
PS: Turns out the importer used to run 'Hi Fi Farm' in Virginia back in the 80's. He's a great guy, I did a LOT of business with him back in the day.
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Or know if they are still in production?
I've never heard them and didn't even know about the Falcons. But I always admired the LS3/5a design.
"You can't know what the "best" is unless you have heard everything, and keep in mind that given individual tastes, there really isn't any such thing." HP
Total Rubbish
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It's a failure. (See link below.) Don't know if the Gini is still in
production.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
I have heard and sold the original LS3/5 when I worked for Harvey Pro in NYC back in the early 80's.I have also heard the Gini. They are not the same (Apples and oranges). The Gini sounds good with an open sound. The LS3/5 sounds flat (As designed (100 - 10,000).
I could live with the Gini. I could not live with the original LS3/5 everyday.
Just my opinion and experience.
Edits: 07/24/15
i too am curious to hear the Falcons. the speakers i just put back into service-the Fried RII, has the three KEF drivers that are unobtainium-t27, b110, b139.
i am pleased to reveal that they sound fanTASTIC. FORTY year old speakers that can compete with many a new face in the crowd!
i just took the MMGs into the bedroom and before that the spendor s3/5s gave temporary duty to the pioneer bs22s. as good as the pios are, the MMGs kicked them out of the room. still, they are a bargain!
nothing wrong with the s3/5s either. they don't seem to have the magic of the rogers but are MUCH easier to mate with a sub.
yeah, i am curious alright, to hear the diff between the original t27 and b110 from the NEW versions. i am wondering if they can be used as replacements in the chance of catastrophic signals passing through some originals.
...regards...tr
What did they say? What, if anything, makes this remake notably different or better than any of the other remakes?
Even the bumps are intact.
Cheers
Bill
Are you talking about bumps in frequency response?
I think what is unique is that the Falcon is a modern version of the 15ohm LS3/5A. That should make it very, very tube-friendly.
Do they print their electrical load curve?
LOL. Falcon's goal was clearly to replicate the classic BBC original in all respects, not to produce a modern, accurate speaker. The LS3/5A WAS a revolutionary breakthrough product in its day, as Herb makes clear in his historical synopsis, but the art, science, and materials of speaker building HAVE advanced a bit in 40 years, and the current crop of BBC-approved mini-monitors from KEF, Harbeth, Spendor, etc. are technically superior to the original in every measurable parameter.
Bextrene fell out of use as a cone material simply because polypropylene worked better, and only cheap mass-market speakers use Mylar dome tweeters these days. A lot of work went into the original crossovers to at least partly tame the inherent errors of the original drivers. The protruding cabinet edges around the baffle of course raise diffractive hell with the highest frequencies -- look at the upper treble jaggies in JA's measurements, both on and off axis.
Still, there must be something euphonically "right" about the original design -- despite or perhaps because of its response irregularities -- that makes Falcon's reiteration more than just a nostalgia product. The original BBC engineers worked long and hard on the prototype design, until the "magic" fell into place. Herb actually preferred its sound to his new KEF LS50s, and there are probably lots of other listeners out there who will likewise be charmed by its "vintage" sound quality.
> The protruding cabinet edges around the baffle of course raise diffractive
> hell with the highest frequencies -- look at the upper treble jaggies in
> JA's measurements, both on and off axis.
The Falcon LS3/5a review will be posted in our website review archive next week.
> Herb actually preferred its sound to his new KEF LS50s...
I preferred the LS50s to my 1978 Rogers LS3/5as, much as I love the latter.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
Anyone who thinks the fidelity of the KEF LS50 isn't significantly better than the LS3/5a isn't listening. Preferring the sound and colorations of the LS3/5a to the sound and colorations(less than the LS3/5a but also there, of course)is a completely different statement.
On a second thought I would question how the new speaker can be compared to the original LS3/5a's sound which after 40 years or so can't possibly sound like they originally did.
> I would question how the new speaker can be compared to the original
> LS3/5a's sound which after 40 years or so can't possibly sound like they
> originally did.
A good point. If you look at the comparative response graphs in my review,
you can see that the Falcon has more treble energy overall than my 1978
Rogers.
All I can say is that I start each speaker measurement session with my
1978 LS3/5as and in 25 years I have been doing this they measure the
same. Every couple of years I listen to them for a week or so and they
sound as they always have.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
They are doing the original 15 ohm design, not the 11 ohm revision.
And they're using real T27 and B110 drivers built by the man who designed them, Malcolm Jones, one of the founding employees of KEF.
"A lie is half-way around the world before the truth can get its boots on."
-Mark Twain
"PS: Turns out the importer used to run 'Hi Fi Farm' in Virginia back in the 80's. He's a great guy, I did a LOT of business with him back in the day."
I did too, My opinion of Steve Davis runs very counter to yours.......
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Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.
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I had good experiences, sorry if you had bad ones.
I'm having a VERY BAD experience with an importer now trying to get repairs done to an amp.
I wish I could just buy everything from Walter at Underwood Hi Fi. His service is always great.
"A lie is half-way around the world before the truth can get its boots on."
-Mark Twain
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