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In Reply to: RE: Great imaging speakers posted by lesleymorley@yahoo.com on November 18, 2011 at 16:14:02
Here is my new system - and probably my last. These are headphones in **every** imaginable way, except they are decidedly not confined to the few inches between your ears. The precision, the seeming ease with which they retain their composure, the deep insight into every little passage, the intensely stable spatial separation, all those great headphone things. You really can't believe it when you sit between them - nobody can. When my Quads were still in the room and 10' away, when I played a mono song you would swear the sound was coming from the Quads (spatially I mean) - it was uncanny, and eerie. There was no hint any sound was coming from those bronze balls a mere 18" from your head.
My Quads are all gone now. I've owned old and new (courtesy kentaja) 57's and new 63's (also courtesy kentaja) for 25 years now. Never again - nearfield listening has changed my life, because imaging is my highest priority and when you hear these puppies nearfield with a rich sounding amp, the rest is good enough. The soundspace is absolutely not limited to the space between the gallo's, far from it. I suppose this is more about nearfield listening than it is about gallo vs Quad - but hearing the gallo's in the way I do now, I find it doubtful anything but a one way crossoverless "full range" (by that I mean I don't run a crossover before them) point source round steel enclosure could top it. They are astounding - and these aren't even the ti's (which I've have in my closet for weeks - can't bring myself to change speakers)
Try it - take the room out of the equation, take the massive stereo out of the equation (mine is hidden under my end table), and get headphone sound in a nice big intensely visible space, for a few hundred bucks. You want imaging? In spades, I live for it.
New username - "bronze-balls"!
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INteresting ... with the Gallos set up like that, do you get imaging like conventional wide-spaced nearfield monitors (say your Minuets set up ~6' from your ears and > 60 degrees apart in front of you)?
I use Triangle Tituses, ~6' from my ears, pointed at my head, and something like 100 degrees between them ... (plus a sub in the corner augmenting <50Hz bass).
I, too, am addicted to imaging and especially depth perception ...
Thanks for the post! Cool stuff ...
I think the better description is still - headphones, but bigger - much, much bigger. Have stopped experimenting really, but hard to imagine I can do much better. Will definitely add stereo subs to each side of the sofa at some point though...
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But is there a stereo image in 'front' of you? Sounds like there isn't.
I guess you get a lot of information, but doesn't sound like what I'm looking for ...
It is in front of you yes, in fact when my Quads were still in the room 10' away and a mono song came on, it sounded eerily like it was coming from the Quads even at that distance. I used to be an always eyes-closed listener, but now I stare right at it in front of me. But when it goes full on stereo, there's no mistaking it as being 10' away - you are surrounded by music, swirling it it sometimes. And that's with my Gallo's slightly behind me pointing about 1' in front of me - as you can see from the picture, probably not the most optimal but close. The day I first heard that was the day I knew I'd never settle for any less - seems like a lifetime ago now.
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Thanks for the 'suggestion'! I'll have to wait until my wife is away for 1/2 day or something tho, my 'experiments' drive her crazy!
Wow.. you should be a speaker salesman. Very well stated. I will be borrowing a pair of Morel sphere speakers and try them out.
(My room is small). But I got the same kind of imaging you talk about with both AN-K and AN-J speakers in the corners.
"You don't need to be a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows"
Well, I have a pile of cash stacked up from all the stuff I've sold (3 pair of Quads!), and an AN dealer literally a few blocks away. However, recalling one review or comment from either TAS or Stereophile, while raving about the AN's he noted something to the effect that "if you expect your speakers to act as a honing device to zero on on every cufflink clattering, these are not the speakers for you" - to which I quickly concluded those are not the speakers for me given my priorities. The Gallo's do that in spades, that's a real trigger for me. Trying to get the same intimacy from a pair of speakers 5' or more away seems impossible now. But given that I have a leftover Quad II Classic Integrated and a pair of massive 300b/2A3 mono's, maybe I'll give AN's a try before they too disappear - I have corners, and the dealer will happily lend me. What stops me is the very idea of another massive stereo system - if not for the fact that AN's go in corners, it would be out of the question!I tried my Superzero's where the Gallo's are now (also have Silverline Minuets) and the separation between tweeter and woofer was immediately obvious - never really heard that before, so that lasted about 10 seconds. Haven't tried the Minuets - doubt I will for the same reason.
The closest I came to the sensation I get now was probably my 57's in University 25+ years ago, with all tube mint fisher receiver (all original fisher branded tubes), listening on the tube tuner to the university radio station (which was literally across the street). My 57's were so close that when I reclined my lazyboy I could not see the inside corners of the Quads due to armrests in the line of sight - room was about 10' square. That too was headphones! I remember many listening sessions like it was yesterday, and remember exactly how I felt when I heard it. I wouldn't trade what I have now for it, but if I had a spare room would still have it set up there for fun.
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Edits: 11/20/11
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