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A very comprehensive Brian Jones article.
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Give me rhythm or give me death!
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Give me rhythm or give me death!
Great music and great era. Would rather have seen a documentary of the event instead of that miserable attempt at art? And what's with Mick it looks like he's a tad drowsy.
What was good about those days is they hadn't quite yet realized the potential for selling you shit when you attended.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
Thanks! for sharing.
Agreed, 1969 was a banner year for the RS!
above the other years of their career.
The early albums with hits like "Not Fade Away" and "Satisfaction" that made them in the first place?
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Between the Buttons
Beggar's Banquet
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Aftermath
The Stones lost a heck of a lot more than a guitar slinger when Jones died: he was the creative genius and best musician of the lot; he is responsible for brining in Eastern and other influences to the Stones.
Taylor is a fantastic musician and some of the best Stones albums indeed came out during his time, but "best?"
How about Black and Blue? Some Girls? Tattoo You? I'd say these three contain tracks as good as the best from Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Goats Head Soup, or Only Rock and Roll---- Exile, however, I'd put on a pedestal as the greatest of a great many Stones albums with a ridiculous number of true classics.
BTW, it's interesting to see how little Taylor did after he left the Stones. I caught him in Savannah decades ago in a small bar; he still had the chops, but the band and material weren't exactly a threat to many famous low-country roadhouse bands.
Perspective: he contributed to a group of albums that match the quality of the Stones output before he joined. But he sure isn't half the musician Jones was.
Jones helped shaped the music that would become the Stones' sound, look, attitude. Taylor was a John Mayall's Bluesbreaker.
with Jones, with Taylor, with Wood I stick with my PERSONAL observation that they were at their most electrifying & mesmerizing with Taylor.
That being said is in no way taking anything away from Jones. He was the genius of the band in it's early years, but when he jumped or was pushed the band took on a more menacing and compelling look, feel and direction.
Taylor bloomed and flourished with the Stones BECAUSE he was WITH the Stones. Once he left it would prove impossible to find a better rhythm section to get in front of and shoving licks out behind a singer/personality like Jagger could not happen. Without that combo of the Stones he was sunk.
Reminds me of the same thing happening to Peter Green once he went a tad cuckoo and left Fleetwood Mac.
With Taylor playing with the Stones millions of people were able to locate their Ya-Yas and get them out. Getting one's Ya-Yas out was magnitudes better than not getting Satisfaction...
He seems to being doing mostly rhythm work, on the video. With Keith doing lead riffs.
That was his first outting with The Stones, and probably without much practice. It seems that he's winging it a bit.
The guitar duel on "Sympathy For The Devil" off the live "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out", though also performed in 1969, shows his playing as much more polished and practiced. Kieth's work here also shines.
See ya. Dave
music wise, it is hard to choose.
Even live, there is a difference between jammin' and playing great compact, muscular, lean music--- such as their earlier stuff that clocked in at shorter times.
Most of the live Stones w/Taylor stuff sucked (that I've heard and seen)--- and they certainly sucked when I saw them w/him. I do have one exceptional tape, however, I recorded from a King Biscuit Flower Hour (if memory serves…); it is as good as anything they committed to vinyl.
You know a lot more about Peter Green's oeuvre than I, but I've heard good stuff he did post-FM. Not so with Taylor; since the three albums after he left were good, I wonder if his musicianship (I don't know why Woodie dropped off so much from his earlier days; it's like he was intimidated by Richards?) was his major contribution and not necessarily writing--- which purportedly is why he left; he felt he should have received writing credit. I bet Charlie and Bill laughed at that…
We'll just disagree about "Satisfaction," if I'm reading you right. And I like plenty of those older tunes as much as that one; I'd say, as earlier, that I'd rank the Jones and Taylor years equally, though I know which musician I'd pick in a heartbeat if need be.
One thing's for sure, they haven't been worth a relative damn for several decades.
I wonder if you preferred the pop Beatles years to the Sgt. Pepper and post-SP years?
Myself, again, I can't pick. Too much excellence in both periods.
Is that this?
No doubt they were the World's Greatest Rock n' Roll band on those nights.
Some of the BEST Stones ever.
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your email is blocked...mine is not.
But it is fixed. Again.
I still have your address: a copy will be on the way this week.
Will rock your socks off, so start with socks on.
You a Ry Cooder fan?
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" - Michael McClure
yup, a fan of Ry since the day I saw him playing with Jesse Ed Davis and Taj Mahal.
I am good with all Beatles periods....mostly depends on my mood...
And I can only judge the Stones by the jump factor and that only happened to me live.
...the Taylor years were the most melodic. His first performance at Hyde Park was a little rough, as was the rest of the band that day, but subsequent performances (documented on "Gimme Shelter", "Ladies and Gentlemen The Rolling Stones", and on LP and shiny disc) were tons better.I've watched the '69 Hyde Park online in very nice resolution and on Bootleg VHS. I've heard rumor of a Bluray release, but it's unconfirmed on this end. I haven't seen the 50th Hyde Park, but I suspect I will.
Aging is a bitch.
See ya. Dave
Edits: 07/11/14
......Mick Taylor made them sound too much like too many others.
He was too slick (Mike Bloomfieldish) ......
Best times was Brian Jones but Keith improved VASTLY over the years
enough to compensate ......................
"Mick Taylor made them sound too much like too many others."
With all due respect, that's ridiculous. That is except for those trying to copy MT, including Ronny Wood with the Faces.
Was he melodic and slick?... yes. But he could also lay down the grease and get nasty.
Brian Jones had has his genius and certainly was a creative soul and really one of the greats. But I don't think his catalog versus Micks catalog is comparable. The run of albums MT is lead on is arguably one the best there ever was and he is a big part of that sound. And I don't think most fans would describe the Stones "sound" during this period as slick.
Comparing MT with Keith is also ridiculous. Keith is a great band leader, showman, celebrity, writer, and most of all one of the best rock guitar lick writers on the planet. But when it comes to guitar playing he is a strictly rhythm. Can he play one of his licks? Sure. But have you ever seen him take a long run and do any improvising? It's painful to watch.
Watch the video below. Mt drives this song while Keith is strumming. The guy is a monster slider. This song has full horns going among other things but it's MT's guitar playing that really defines the sound. Not unlike most of the songs he played lead as a Stones.
But there was something lost when Brian Jones left (or was thrown out) of the group.
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"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" - Michael McClure
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