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No. "Progressive" means normal people won't like it.

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cfraser

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In Reply to: RE: does *progressive* rock have to be influential to be called progressive rock? [no text] posted by Hi-Fi Nut on June 10, 2012 at 04:12:42

Mostly j/k...

So much of what I used to listen to decades ago is called progressive nowadays. I probably never would have listened to it back then if it had been called progressive, because I generally didn't like that stuff.

Nowadays, from what I've heard, "progressive" means elevator music. Stuff that I'd listen to on my death bed (and who the hell buys these death beds anyways?). Sorry.

IOW the definition of "progressive" music has changed a lot since the 70s. Somewhere along the line "alternative" and "progressive" got jumbled together.

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So what is this elevator music you are referring to? - Snyder 18:11:20 06/10/12 (2)
And your decades old progressive rock?
- RE: So what is this elevator music you are referring to? - cfraser 12:09:44 06/11/12 (1)
  Pick out just about any modern band that's called prog now, and I'll give you my opinion. It's just my taste after all, which does lean to dynamic/intense/emotional music.
  As for the old stuff, just some examples of what I listened to in the 70s (and still do) that are usually referred to as prog now, but we didn't have that term for this type of band back then, at least around here. What we called prog was Yes/Caravan/KC/early Genesis etc., generally British.
  What we didn't call prog (here) ~40 years ago that many call prog now that I listen to: Family, Curved Air, Renaissance, Magazine, Barclay James Harvest, Be Bop Deluxe. You get the idea. Not hugely popular, adventurous, sometimes out there. I *do* agree that this should have been called prog by us, because it was. But music was (over) labelled/categorised back then, that's how it was sold. I like things better now.
  
  Edits: 06/11/12
  - I guess it depends on the direction we went after the 70's..... - Snyder 20:53:21 06/13/12 (0)
    There are so many sub-genres in music today and I think Prog probably has the most. I also grew up with the classic prog bands such as Yes, KC, Genesis, Caravan, etc. I still listen to Close to the Edge, Tales of Topographic Oceans, Relayer, Lamb Lies Down, Larks Tongue in Aspic, Red, etc.
    
    But over the years I've gone towards the Prog metal side. As mentioned above, Porcupine Tree has become one of the leading modern prog bands. A few more of my favorites include Dream Theater, Grails, Opeth, Haken, Riverside, Symphony X, Spock's Beard, Mastodon, Tool, Odd Logic, Anathema, Fates Warning, OSI, Transatlantic, Ihsahn, Green Carnation, Pain of Salvation, Frost and Devin Townsend.
    
    I think it would be safe to say that not all of a bands albums would be considered Prog. For instance, Opeth's later albums are more Prog than their earlier albums. Two bands that are also like that are Kansas and Rush.
    
    Hopefully we didn't hijack the thread too much and to go back to the O.P, I think a lot of Prog has been influential but it doesn't have to be influential to be Prog.

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