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In Reply to: RE: DAC Recommendation? posted by Plato65 on August 29, 2016 at 02:59:14
might be hard to get in one package.
I prefer older technology multi-bit DACs for natural sound (Audio-GD PCM1704UK chip set for example) and find the newer DACs based on Delta-Sigma chip sets to be a bit harsh.
PSAudio might have something in a DSD capable DAC that is listenable but I don't know if their better stuff is available in your price range.
If it were me, I'd scrap the DSD requirement and go for the moderately priced SCHIIT multi-bit DAC like the GUNGNIR at about $1250 or so.
It is available in two versions, Delta Sigma and Multi-bit, with Multi-bit (no DSD) costing a bit more so that tells us all we need to know about DSD, right?
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"If it were me, I'd scrap the DSD requirement and go for the moderately priced SCHIIT multi-bit DAC like the GUNGNIR at about $1250 or so. "
I agree 100% or if you want to spend a it more their Yagi DAC. Or great sound for $250 try the Modi Multibit! I am astonished how good it sounds IMO you will not find anything that sounds any more real. I am surprised nobody has mentioned it here. (Too busy fighting I guess) I have been listening to one for three weeks and it is amazing for $250, or for any price actually.
I judge systems by classical violin reproduction. Ladder dacs are the best but don't do DSD. You really don't need DSD
Audio-gd has an entry level ladder dac that uses 1704 chips. It is only $800. Violins are wonderful. Absolutely silken in tone. I have there Master 7 which is $2500. Set to non over sampling it has the best violin tone I have ever heard
Alan
R2R and DSD :) Well worth a serious look. There has been some talk on CA recently.
That is the first R2R dac I have seen that does DSD and I believe it oversamples to do it. I do not like over sampling
Alan
The spring dac has an AK4137 SRC but DOES NOT need this for the DSD. as it's processes DSD data discretely on it's own patented R2R linear compensated resistor networks. NO, its not converted to PCM either. It's pure DSD.
I just wanted to post facts, as this is commonly assumed it's not possible. It is. And does DSD512 Native as well.The R2R module is completely custom, NOT off the shelf.
TWO resister networks for DSD, and TWO for PCM.
the second network of resistors works similar to trimming, so this is the first dac of it's kind to have Linear compensation.This is a true NOS dac with > 126db SNR, and 0.00050% THD+N@5K for DSD
and 0.00068% THD+N@5K for PCM - and linearity is darn near flawless.
I don't like oversampling either BTW.The oversampling SRC is just optional and is NOT in the signal path when you are running in NOS mode. The best mode imho :)
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It seems odd to me to seek a DAC or any component that is good for a particular instrument. My feeling on the topic is that a component should be good across the board.I've had many DACs in my setup but if extra smooth is one of the requirements with little regard for shortcomings, I would recommend the Wavelength Brick v3 USB DAC or the Luxman DA-06. Both are VERY smooth, but both are also rolled off at the frequency extremes, kind of soft dynamically, and a little veiled to my ears.... but VERY VERY smooth.
For an overall outstanding performer on a reasonable budget I can highly recommend the PS Audio NuWave DSD DAC ($1299 MSRP, much less with certain manufacturer sponsored trade-ins).
The PS Audio NuWave DSD DAC has recently replaced my $3500 Ayre QB-9 DSD DAC. Both are outstanding but I prefer the PS Audio over the Ayre by a slight margin.
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Consider it a minimum requirement. If you can't enjoy listening to your favorite music, what's the point of sounding good with other stuff?
I'll look into PS Audio!
Agree on the PS Audio dac.
If you don't have a local PS Audio dealer call Wally at Underwood Hi Fi.
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