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In Reply to: RE: Mercman: Sonore by Simple Design microRendu: An Audiophile Odyssey posted by Frihed89 on August 26, 2016 at 01:21:15
This has been debated on over 50 threads here I guessing.
Sure it is a "computer" just like your car, fridge, and microwave are.
The good streamers are PURPOSE BUILT and designed for AUDIO by AUDIO engineers.
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By the same token, audio software running on a GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER (such as, say, HQ Player) is PURPOSE BUILT and designed for AUDIO by AUDIO engineers! ;-)
..running on garbage quality hardware.....:)
The thing we have to remember is that, with digital processing of ANY kind, we're dealing with discrete values (1's and 0's). So when any kind of "noise" (or, if you will, "garbage") gets into the system, it only becomes a problem when it exceeds a (pretty generous) threshold. IOW, additional noise (unless it's a substantial amount) is NOT going to change the value of the bits being processed - this is one of the big advantages of digital and it's the reason that all of our systems today (financial systems, etc.) have converted to digital. It's more accurate and less prone to problems. Moreover, the transmission of digital data just doesn't get corrupted as easily. So I can be using garbage quality hardware, and the data transmission (to my DAC for instance) is still just fine.
I guess you could say that my garbage tolerance is pretty high - as long as the right bits in the right order get through unscathed!
Your view on this is perfectly reasonable. But I believe it is wildly inaccurate. You have fallen into mindset that "digital is digital" wether it is data sent to a printer or a stock trade.
Having worked in recording studios and mastering studios for over 20 years I promise you that audio is a very special case.
The very fact that you can plug in any number of "USB purifiers" (iFI, UpTone, Intona, Wyrd, Schitt, etc) and different USB Cables,and the sound changes, almost always for the better, is proof the tolerance is actually VERY LOW.
More proof positive is these differences are much much smaller with higher end devices.
I have no issue with you taking a different position, I promise you it is better for your nervous system!
. . . is the role of human psychology in audio evaluation. I mean of course such phenomena as expectation bias, group-think, etc.
I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong however, and I do respect your experience in the industry. It's just that the awareness of subtle (or even unsubtle) sound improvement(s) may be more "in the mind" than is commonly acknowledged.
My own background is in music, so I like to flatter myself that I can tell what I'm hearing too. ;-)
"the awareness of subtle (or even unsubtle) sound improvement(s) may be more "in the mind" than is commonly acknowledged."
Very valid point, and I can tell you without question I believe that many "improvements" in sound reported by Audiophiles with highly questionable tweaks and enhancements are in the mind.
I personally don't think hard drives near sensitive gear is a good thing, but if someone sets up a system with drives perched on their hifi rack, it is in no way "wrong", but not what I would do.
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