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The restaurant fired the waitress!
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She should sue Appleby's for damages.
It's amazing what libs deem noteworthy.............................
If they were supervising the server, they all would have fired her obnoxious ass too. Posting the guy's bill and name on the web was way over the line. It's over a fucking tip, not a personal assault. What would she post online if she got pissed at the boss or company?I'm no longer puzzled about how how an enlightened Germany was turned to embrace the Nazis
Edits: 01/31/13
"If they were supervising the server, they all would have fired her obnoxious ass too. Posting the guy's bill and name on the web was way over the line. It's over a fucking tip, not a personal assault."Pastor Alois Bell should lose her flock, and be stripped of her pastorhood. If I was one of her parishioners I would NEVER go to her church again!!!
Chelsea Welch, the waitress, should have been HONORED as she did a GREAT public service outing a cheap hypocrite who doesn't deserve to be a pastor.
People will not judge people if they behave correctly, Chelsea Welch behaved correctly. Pastor Alois Bell and Applebee's behaved poorly, were complete and total assholes.
"What would she post online if she got pissed at the boss or company?"
Also if any company mistreats any of it's workers and refuses to correct the situation or offers the wrong or inadequate solution then it's the duty of said worker(s) to have their grievances resolved and that includes but is not limited to posting on the internet, telling everyone they know and suing their asses off!
You don't fire someone for exposing someone who needs to be exposed! The pastor needs to own up to her own actions, ask God for forgiveness and go into another line of work.
IMHO Chelsea Welch should sue both Pastor Alois Bell and Applebee's!!!!!
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
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I'd like to see your real reaction when a check shows up with a large tip already included.
I'm no longer puzzled about how how an enlightened Germany was turned to embrace the Nazis
"I'd like to see your real reaction when a check shows up with a large tip already included."Have you ever worked for tips? I have. With your attitude you should be banned from all restaurants, bars and other establishments with employees who work for tips.
18% is not a large tip. I go to dinners with a friend and we take turns paying, we use 2 for 1 coupons and the total is usually under $15.00 and we tip $3.00 and if the service is really good $5.00, which is actually 33%. The best waiters and waitresses fulfill your every need often before you realize yourself and make your meal so pleasant that you want to come back often. They are worth every dollar I tip them.
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
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to base the tip on the whole, and not discounted, amount. Yer basically paying the server withr you tip, not the restaurant and she/he did the same amount of work on your two half price orders as he/she would have done were they both full priced.Drinkn buddy and I go out, usually to the same bars, and tip stupidly good. Usually 40-50% for drinks. Bartender makes it up to us by refilling our wine glasses a cupla times with no charge. Good deal for him, good deal for us, the bar? Not so much ;->
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Edits: 02/02/13
Not only do you support the guy who stiffed waitress, sounds like you have NEVER picked up the check for a large group of people.
Many if not most restaurants have a notice printed on the menu that they add a fixed percentage service fee to the bill for large groups.
This isn't about tipping. If she worked for you, you'd have fired her ass in heart beat and you know it. You're just trying to get on Teresa's good side.I'm no longer puzzled about how how an enlightened Germany was turned to embrace the Nazis
Edits: 02/01/13
from my restaurant.The automatic 18 percent gratuity was added to the bill since there were more than eight people in the party. This is Applebee's policy as tipped employee's have to pay taxes on a percentage of sales in their area whither they are actually tipped or not. Large parties can really make waiters/waitresses tax liability go sky high if they are stiffed. This is to protect their employees.
Assholes such as Pastor Alois Bell need to be exposed, especially if they are a member of the clergy pretending to be religious. This goes directly to Pastor Alois Bell's character and she needs to ask God's forgiveness or burn in hell.
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
Edits: 02/02/13
and a customer refused to pay the service fee for a large group of people, said service fee clearly stated on the menu, I'd have called the cops!
And then posted the note he left on the internet myself.
She didn't refuse the 18% large party tip, she left $6 cash for the tip (OK only 17%!) and just wrote the Jesus crack on the bill. She wrote zero in the ADDITIONAL tip line on the bill.And the fired jerk who posted the bill wasn't even the server for the party in question; she was an "offended" co-worker who heard about the note later. Drop the poor sufferin' server crap...you'd have fired her too.
I'm no longer puzzled about how how an enlightened Germany was turned to embrace the Nazis
Edits: 02/01/13
DWPC said "She didn't refuse the 18% large party tip, she left $6 cash for the tip (OK only 17%!) and just wrote the Jesus crack on the bill. She wrote zero in the ADDITIONAL tip line on the bill."
The $6 mystery tip doesn't exist, it was a fiction by pastor Alois Bell, Applebee's admitted on their twitter she left no cash tip. In addition she says she was charged the 18% automatic gratuity anyway by her credit card company, we will have to wait to see if this is true when she gets her credit card bill.
Pastor apologizes for God gratuity remark that resulted in Applebee’s server being fired
"And the fired jerk who posted the bill wasn't even the server for the party in question; she was an "offended" co-worker who heard about the note later. Drop the poor sufferin' server crap...you'd have fired her too."
While it's true Chelsea Welch was a server working that night she was not the one who waited on Pastor Alois Bell's party making her even more of a hero as she did it for a fellow waitress. No one in their right mind would fire her or even call her a jerk as you heartlessly did! As I said earlier I would have banned pastor Alois Bell and made Chelsea Welch "Employee of the Month". You are on the wrong side of this issue and your stance is insulting to workers everywhere, DWPC you should be very ashamed of yourself!
There are at least five petitions to rehire Chelsea Welch and one has over 6,800 signatures.
Applebee's: Rehire Chelsea & We'll Eat At Your Restaurant At Least Once In 2013
Applebee’s Responds to Fired Waitress Chelsea Welch’s Viral ‘God’ Tip
Chelsea Welch (pictured above) says “I had been well-liked and respected. My sales were high, my managers had no problems with me, and I was even hoping to move up to management sometime this year. When I posted this, I didn’t represent Applebee’s in a bad light. In fact, I didn’t represent them at all. I did my best to protect the identity of all parties involved. I didn’t break any specific guidelines in the company handbook — I checked. But because this person got embarrassed that their selfishness was made public, Applebee’s has made it clear that they would rather lose a dedicated employee than lose an angry customer. That’s a policy I can’t understand.”
“We make $3.50 an hour. Most of my paychecks are less than pocket change because I have to pay taxes on the tips I make. After sharing my tips with hosts, bussers, and bartenders, I make less than $9/hr on average, before taxes. I am expected to portray a canned personality that has been found to be least offensive to the greatest amount of people. I come home exhausted, sore, burnt, dirty, and blistered on a good day. And after all that, I can be fired for ‘embarrassing’ someone who directly insults their server on religious grounds.”
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
If these are indeed the true facts I'm with you DWPC. Applebees is a business and no way their employee(s) should be posting crap like that.
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I posted 4 links and 2 YouTubes showing the actual facts. See the link below for the post with all the proof you need.
Chelsea Welch was wrongfully fired as she was in her rights to post what she did to reveal the hypocrisy of Pastor Alois Bell. Chelsea is the victim, she did everything right and should be commended for standing up for a fellow waitress. She is a hero and there are at five petitions to demand Applebee's rehire Chelsea Welch and one has over 6,800 signatures.
Pastor Alois Bell and Applebee's are clearly in the wrong and both should be reprimanded.
"Applebees is a business and no way their employee(s) should be posting crap like that."
The clergy get away with enough crap, they need to be called on the carpet for all their misdeeds, after all they want us to follow them to salvation.
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
EVERY time I'm in a large group and 18.5% is added for the tip, it is ingrained in the bill. There is no option to remove it. There was no such evidence on the printed receipt that the mandatory tip was somehow removed. A manager or someone would have had to approve a new bill with the 18% gratuity removed.
Having said that I do feel sad for the little girl waitret. She'll learn from this mistake, and have no doubt about it, it was a mistake. I'm sure with all the publicity she'll end up with a decent and, maybe, better job.
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"You're presuming the pastor is lying when she says the tip was on her bill"She is only saying that the credit card charged her the $6.29, neither we nor her know if this is true until she actually receives her credit card bill as I previously stated.
What Pastor Alois Bell is lying about is her claim of leaving a $6 cash tip which anyone with a brain would know is a lie. Why? The waitress delivers ones bill to their table, that is where she would have seen the 18% tip of $6.29 and marked it out. In addition if she didn't want to leave more than 10% she would have left $3.50 not $6.00 as she claimed. Everyone at Applebee's including the management said she didn't leave any tip.
"EVERY time I'm in a large group and 18.5% is added for the tip, it is ingrained in the bill. There is no option to remove it. There was no such evidence on the printed receipt that the mandatory tip was somehow removed. A manager or someone would have had to approve a new bill with the 18% gratuity removed."
At the top is a picture of the receipt for
Amount: $34.93
Tip 18%:$6.29(struck through)
Additional Tip: 0 (hand written)
Total: $34.93 (hand written)Like I said above she and we will have to wait until she gets her credit card bill. If it says $34.93 she was not charged, if it says $41.22 she was charged the 18%. Sorry we don't have this answer yet.
"Having said that I do feel sad for the little girl waitret. She'll learn from this mistake, and have no doubt about it, it was a mistake. I'm sure with all the publicity she'll end up with a decent and, maybe, better job."
Actually thinking it is a mistake is dangerous to the truth in future situations, Chelsea Welch must be vindicated and be a shinning light to those who wish to hide and conceal their actions. As I said my first post in this thread: Never write anything you're not proud of and don't want the whole world to see! Good advise to live by.
Chelsea Welch should be "Employee of the Month" and a hero for all members of the working class and Pastor Alois Bell should be banned from Applebee's and defrocked.
I liked Ivan303's solution:
"If I ran a restaurant and a customer refused to pay the service fee for a large group of people, said service fee clearly stated on the menu, I'd have called the cops!
And then posted the note he left on the internet myself."
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
Edits: 02/02/13
Waitress should have been fired. You let the help get away with this, who knows what they do next. The help does exactly that, they freekin help. They don't have their capital at risk and are beholden to management's rules.
On the other hand, I agree, totally, that paying a tip for a large group, when it's clearly a written policy of the restaurnt to charge one, warrants action. Whether I, as a business owner, would waste the police's time with a $6.29 charge is another matter.
That phony ass pastor can kiss my royal ass.
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"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
to now paint the waitress as somehow the one who did wrong is pretty pathetic.
The patron was clearly acting out some assholiness that was neither respectful or even slightly relative to the reality that we and the waitress live in.
But considering it was some kind of homespun 'clergy'......I am not exactly surprised. And the so called 'church' that this person heads up seems like they have formed a quasi religious dogma based on the teachings of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter.
Certainly nothing resembling 'christian'.
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... If a man of the cloth wants to be such a tight-wad and write stupid comments on a receipt of an el-cheapo fast food joint then he deserves the ridicule.
The pastor should certainly apologise to the waitress, not complain the manager.
The girl should not have posted the receipt online but I don’t believe she deserved to be fired.
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"If a man of the cloth wants to be such a tight-wad and write stupid comments on a receipt of an el-cheapo fast food joint then he deserves the ridicule.
The pastor should certainly apologise to the waitress, not complain the manager."
I agree!
"The girl should not have posted the receipt online but I don't believe she deserved to be fired."
These are exactly the kind of things that SHOULD be posted online. The clergy get away with too much sh*t, it is time they start being called on the carpet for some of it.
Chelsea Welch, the waitress is a hero and should be honored! Her firing (if it stands) can only cause more truths to be buried in the future.
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
Could you stop with the hero bs please. Everyone in the USA is a gd hero. Enough already!
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
Well good for you. Do you keep a spreadsheet or something?
... I think the waitress should have asked permission before posting a picture of the receipt.
The receipt is work product and a picture of it amounts to the same.
It really doesn’t matter who the patron was but in this case it was a pastor.
If the pastor didn’t want to pay any tip that is a matter for him and the manager. Writing things on receipts is pretty silly.
I don’t eat at fast-food or chain-style restaurants but a bill for $35 for eight people is something I have only ever seen in third world countries.
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And that is the closest we have ever been on any issue.
1) I agreed that the Pastor deserves the ridicule.
2) I agreed the pastor should apologise to the waitress, not complain to the manager.
3) I agreed that the waitress didn't deserved to be fired.
4) I disagreed that she should not have posted the receipt online.
I believe she was doing a public service and she had every right to post it online.
I think 3 out of 4 is most not half.
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
... Than being Applebee's. Who could eat that shite?
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They were a carnival of American decay on parade, and they had no idea of the atrocity they had inflicted upon themselves.“ Henry Chinaski
Chelsea Welch, the waitress, should have been given a medal and a big raise for exposing such a hypocrite. All she did was reveal his unacceptable behavior to the world."I give God 10%," Bell wrote on the receipt, scratching out the automatic tip and scribbling in an emphatic "0" where the additional tip would be. "Why do you get 18?" (There were more than eight people in Bell's party, triggering the auto-tip.)
Everyone who goes to Pastor Bell's church should put NOTHING in the collection plate and refuse to make any donation until she publicly apologizes to Chelsea Welch and demands Applebee's gives Ms. Welch her job back.
Both Pastor Bell and Applebee's are very much in the wrong here.
Way to go Chelsea Welch, I'm very proud of you. You are a shinning light to workers everywhere and to those who are against religious hypocrisy.
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
Edits: 02/01/13
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I didn't know that anyone who voted 'Green Party' ate at Applebee's.
back when Wherehouse Records was still in business at Prater and McCarran in Sparks I used to eat at the Applebee's next door.
"Vote the corporate-sponsored Democrats and Republicans out of office if you want to save America. Quit believing the controlled media's lies and become a truth seeker."
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
not surprising at all that Applebees sent her ass packing.
Hope there's a dead fly in your next Big Mac.
with the A-bee's and pastor. You beat me to it!
nothing is more boring than the truth - bukowski
Cheapass!
Somewhere he got his ancestral heritage bass-ackwards.
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