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Yesterday I was being kind of preacherlike in the pub I'm working, my boss already gave me his 'alright' on jazz and so I brought with me a bottle of Highland Park and some CDs with John Coltrane and the famous Shirley Horn and I must say, people liked it. They were screeching dervishly wanting more technical music like house etc, but fortunately I could say 'not during diner'. Later on, the bottle was almost empty and the household of very frequent visitors were sober compared to me, I put in the Pixies and Nick Cave's Murder Ballads and this seemed to be a succes. I was home at 5 this morning and the last couple of hours are a mystery to me.Right now, I'm relaxing with Bruckner 9 with an old and therefore mono BPO/Jochum recording, loving the sound of the orchestra but slightly agitated by the speed of this performance compared to the more logic Celibidache.
It's 13 and within five hours I'm working again, I need to reload the batteries before giving them the serious shit like Charlie Parker.
They like Bon Jovi,
Rob Sigh
They could like rap. Or (eeeeek) FRENCH RAP! This, of course, is not meant as an attack on French folks. But the highly regulated department of french cultural purity demands that some 60% of airtime be french stuff. So there's a demand for francophonic rap from the french, errrr, misguided youth. The result is that you can hardly turn on the radio without the most goddawful stuff blaring out.Now, if you're looking for a politically incorrect attack on the french...
I'd rather listen to French rap (sigh!)(60% enforced) than eat hormone injected cows (100% enforced)
Sure. Food standards differ from country to country. I hit probably 30-40 different countries a year. France is the only place I ever end up with food poisoning. Once a year on average. Salmonella every time (no chlorine rinse of poultry, eg). A bit tense in Brussels over French compliance with EU sanitation and food safety norms.Oh. Try some french beef some time. Tough as an old saddle. Hormones good. At least they have some taste.
(nt)
OK, might as well stick to the good ol' US beef jerky at least - it's got hormones, tastes REALLY likes old leather AND you don't have to pay air fare!
Anyway, what's a bad stomach compared with a really poisonous, but tasty camembert....?
It looks like beef. It tastes like beef. In fact, it's nothing less than 100 percent pure beef.But a batch of the stuff drew nationwide attention in Japan when it went on the market Thursday advertised as the beef of a cloned cow.
``It's nice and soft,'' said Kaori Yoshimura, a 28-year old office worker dining on the cloned meat at a steakhouse. ``I'd buy it again because it tastes good.''
I really liked Manau's 'Le tribute de Dana'.:-)
Furthermore I hate the French politics, they have the highest rates of drugaddicts and they tell us to quit selling pot in a more or less legal way. But they invented the word 'hypocrite'.
Rob
I dunno about the druggies. They all seem to live closer to the northeast corner (to be closer to you).But the stinking drivers are, ummmm, not the best. I've been plowed into twice by drunken frenchmen in the past 2 years. 2 Cars down the toilet. And to make it worse, after one of these paysans creams me I have the pleasure of 4 hours filling out forms and waiting around the gendarmerie. Every stinking thing is on strike but the lousy drivers.
But YBA electronics are not bad.
I like US politics, they have the lowest rate of drug addicts (not counting Prozac, of course), they encourage people to smoke pot, and they never tell ANYBODY what to do. What was that about 'hypocrite'?
nt
> > I'm relaxing with Bruckner 9 with an old and therefore mono BPO/Jochum
> > recordingMaybe you can try this one on them. Then we'll see them screeching.
I listened to many of her songs on my local jazz station. What an incredible bore she is. Her voice is lifeless, her piano playing is nothing short of mediocre. She makes me yawn. Coltrane on the other hand is pretty amazing. The Pixies... ah yes. I got to see Frank Black and The Catholics perform that was a fun show.
Hey Scott, why don't you just post:
"Where are you John E?"
instead of all that writing?
:-)
Jorge
Shirley: I wouldn't have liked her ten years ago. But now that I'm moving into my middle forties (urk) and have teenagers hogging the phone/computer/bathroom/stereo, I have a whole new perspective on life and music. Last night my wife and I curled up with "You Won't Forget Me." It drove the kids right out of the room, but that was just fine with us. The Joseph speakers put her in the room with us with an intoxicating realism. We just sighed and held hands and sank into the music. When you've been married twenty years like I have, the slow but intense ballad thing has a real appeal.Scott: I enjoy his posts, even the ones that I find to be way off base. His posts are provocative but thoughtful, and I've never seen him flame anybody except the artists he doesn't like. I hope he keeps on telling us what he thinks, because I want to know.
Scott, I've taken issue with you on a couple of your messages in the past, but this time I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with you! I have recently, finally gotten around to listening to Shirley Horn myself, and I had high expectations based on the way some people rave about her here. I expected music similiar to Diana Krall's - piano based jazz and female vocal. Judging from other poster's opinions, I expected her voice to be more mature than DK's, so if anything I anticipated music that would surpass DK's, and would open up a whole new catalogue of new listening pleasures for me. WOW - was I disappointed! Almost simultaneously, I got my hands on two of her albums, and then was bitterly disappointed when I realized that she is also prominently featured on the new Charlie Haden CD, "The Art of the Song" that I purchased (THAT - is another huge disappointment story deserving of it's own posting!).Anyway - I picked up "You Won't Forget Me" at a used CD store for $8.99, I received "Loving You" as part of my membership package for joining the BMG Jazz CD club. One is more torpid than the other. This is NOT jazz. Isn't jazz supposed to have some sort of syncopation, some tempo, some sort of rhythm, and isn't it best when it swings? And where was any improvisation? There is very little ofany of that here, although when Ms Horn performs a mid-to-uptempo tune, the results are more pleasing. One S......L......O..........W ballad after another drags along. I read somewhere (Perhaps in one of the liner notes?) that Ms Horn is good enough to carry tunes too slow for anyone else to do, and my hat's off to her for trying, and for those who appreciate this style of music - whew!!! - I'm not quite ready to die yet! This stuff is DEADLY! This music didn't put me to sleep, it nearly had me in a coma! It seemed as though someone had to rouse her between lines to get her to continue - that's how long she pauses between phrases. I don't dispute the quality of her voice - it seems pure and rich, but where is any motion in the music? I'll take Diana Krall's voice, along with her jazzy sense of rhythm and swing, punctuated by her concise piano and brilliant interplay with her accompanists ANYDAY. ANYDAY! I had read a recommendation for one of her discs once - "The Main Ingredient", which listed Joe Henderson and Elvin Jones as accompanying her - perhaps that would have been a better introduction to her music. With those two great jazz artists aboard, the music would certainly have to be more jazzy. These two CDs (Three - counting the horrible Charlie Haden CD) were certainly not in my interpretation of what constitutes good jazz. Thanks for mentioning it Scott - I wanted to, but was afraid I would be cited for baiting again! (Sorry, John - I know she's a fave of yours, for one.) Now that you've brought it up however - I feel compelled to agree!
Mike M
Sorry for being late - Happy birthday Mike!
As John seems away, I'll ask this:
Don't you think that track #1 of "You Won't Forget About Me", which is called "The Music That Makes Me Sleep" or something like that, is too much sloowww?
:-)
Regards,
Jorge
I'm probably guilty of generalizing; I'm sure that there are some of her tracks that swing - in fact I remember there were a couple, even on the CDs that I had for a short while. Too late for me to go back and listen to that one though, Jorge - I've already gotten rid of all three discs that I mentioned. I may have been hasty; I don't know - sometimes music grows on me - but the tracks that I enjoyed on the discs that I had were few and far between. Maybe I'll eventually check out one or two others of hers that have been recommended here - I'm nothing if not openminded!Thanks for the B-day wishes - they lose some importance as they pile up, but I treated myself to a couple of great concerts over last weekend, picked up a few new CDs with gift certificates from my kids, and even picked up a few MORE CDs at the used CD store where I returned the Shirley Horn stuff, so all is OK here!
Thanks,
Mike M
Sorry, I forgot - you just had one too, didn't you? Happy birthday and many more to you!Mike M
Thanks.
I was away on holidays and, 'till now, the only musical gift was Santana's "Supernatural", which was a deception. Now that I'm back, let's see how are the other gifts, probably next weekend, when I'll meet most relatives.
To recover from the pop tendency of "Supernatural" I'm listening to "Too Rich For MY Blood" again and again.
My only kid (now 10 years old) gave me a sailing boat miniature, I wonder why...
Regards,
Jorge
I agree with you but do not throw them away. Who knows we may like her someday, somehow, hopely.
I hope not, besides it's too late - I already sold the offending CDs at quite a loss - I only got $11.00 for the three of them. Oh well.Mike M
with nothing in between. Nothing like the "cut-to-the-chase" of the young. And with his vast experience and knowledge in both music and audio, all of us "old farts' with dwindling faculties can feel comfortable taking Young Scott's word as gospel.Scott, I'm going to ask the moderators to archive your posts in a special place and save them for your 50th birthday. It will be a good test of your circulation. If it's still good, your face will glow red with embarassment as you read the pronouncements of your youth.
Phil, my 49th birthday is tomorrow, 9-9-99. Yikes! It's a little disconcerting to think that in one short year I'll be ready to listen to mature music. I get your point though. I'm still a little giddy that I actually agree with Scott on this one myself!Mike M
but I can't believe a DK fan thinks Shirley Horn is a snooze. If you haven't heard "Travellin' Light" or Shirley's tribute to Ray Charles, try to listen to those before you pass final judgement.Hell, you're getting old, Mike. You've gotta adjust to this more sedate stuff. Your heart won't take you lusting after that "blond hussy";-)now that you're up in years.
NOTE: The above is offered in good-natured ribbing and not intended to start yet another DK pro and con thread.
This is the Scott who once said in a post, Kinda Blue Kinda Sucks. Luckily when I was young, I was not opinionated!No flame intended here, I think Scott's passion for music is great & it certainly leads to some interesting posts.
me into listening to it over and over and over...
Clever post! I was ready to go on a defensive tirade on behalf of THE GREATEST JAZZ CD EVER MADE until I read the rest of your post!
Yes, but I committed a no-no...I posted with a new name...JEEZ! My own! I chose the moniker Muzikmike because there are so many Mikes in this nut house, so what do I do...blow it. I guess I can blame it on the fact that I have not "seen" my fellow inmates in about 2 weeks...the computer's been sick. It's up and working now, but I think it is heading for the last roundup...I can't give it meds...can I? I'd rather spend the money on some new equipment! I apologize for the change of names, fellow inmates!
:-)
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