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In Reply to: RE: I've had the Fischer SACD for years posted by Chris from Lafayette on October 24, 2016 at 01:12:56
in 2 channel, the Budapest has far more weight, immediacy (and better hall ambiance) than the Litton.
Litton didn't seem "all of a piece" to me, I also get the sense that the Bergen players were fatigued--physically and mentally by the end of the first and second parts.
Fischer's players actually heighten the tension as they go. The horn bits are particularly intense in the hushed final measures leading up to the climax of the Sacrificial Dance. IMHO Fischer's players are more comfortable with the mixed-meter accents at that point as well; a must if the dance is to cohere.
But if you like the Litton, that's awesome.
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That's good enough for me! =:-0
Some of us are compelled to take on the tedious task of filling in the gaps in his knowledge. ;-)
(BTW, on the link below, you should read the reviews chronologically - IOW, read his review first and then read mine.)
on my various steaming services.
I rate them as very enjoyable but don't know what that computes to in 'stars'.
. . . I just saw that there's now a volume VI:
This is the type of criticism which sounds as if the listener is projecting things onto the performance. So, exactly what were the manifestations of this physical and mental fatigue?
Again, I'm not saying that the Fischer recording is bad. But your reaction to the Litton recording is hard for me to fathom - and I certainly don't hear the kind of rhythmic uncertainties in this performance you seem to be implying. That's just nuts.
Requires very clean and incisive playing esp in strings, trumpets, horns and tymps; Fischer is slow burn and satisfying, Litton's lacks direction or momentum.In the last pages of the Sacrificial dance, the percussion doesn't quite nail those off-beat punctuation: sharp and loud, but a bit tentative.
The Bergen reminds me off Sir Simon's early years with the Birmingham: they play with heart, they get to the playoffs, but never take home the trophy.
Not to say that the playoffs can't be exciting.
Edit: I should also add that in 2 channel, the Bergen tends to appear and then disappear back into no man's land while the Budapest is very gratifyingly anchored in their hall throughout. Maybe Bergen sound last bigger in 5 channel.
No doubt a lot of things contribute to people hearing things differently. I compiled reviews for both Rites and they run the gamut: many left me scratching my head as well.
Edits: 10/24/16
I think you've referred to this yourself: more kudos from more critics go to the Litton recording, and, at a more amateur level on Amazon, the Litton averages out to 5/5, while the Fischer averages out to 4/5. Maybe you should post a review of the Litton recording on Amazon and bring down Litton's average. ;-)
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Didn't find anything new in the reviews of Litton/Rite on Amazon. :-(
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