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In Reply to: RE: Regarding Naxos, please tell me their original 96/24's aren't re-recorded that way. posted by frankwm on September 19, 2016 at 10:13:36
So, as I understand that Amazon comment, Philips merely added some reverb to the organ track in the Davis Berlioz Te Deum?
Regarding the Stokowski recordings, if you're going to make the assertions, then, sorry, it's not my job to prove them for you.
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I suspect all you are bothered about is that you may be listening to Loudspeakers via your Loudspeakers...but "can't tell the difference" !!
The Amazon comment is 2015 - the Gramophone article was some 20+ years back....adding reverb is hardly worth specifically mentioning in an article.
You were wrong about the Colin Davis Berlioz Te Deum, and, yes, I suspect you're wrong about the Stokowski Philips recordings. Sure, I might not be able to "tell the difference". OTOH, you may be hearing things that aren't there. Until I see some corroborating evidence for your allegations, I'll remain skeptical.
By the way-
"As a form of segue, I was offered some inside information about these recordings. Ed Johnson, arguably the finest Stokowski expert in the world today, and I have been corresponding about the Stokowski Sound. He informed me that Stokowski was unhappy with the original master tape. He had the engineers take the master, play it inside a church and re-record it with this added reverberation!!"
. . . it seems we were probably "listening past" each other if you were basing your comments on having listened to the LP's and I was basing my comments on having listened to the SACD's. Thus, in your statement"I suspect all you are bothered about is that you may be listening to Loudspeakers via your Loudspeakers...but "can't tell the difference" !!". . . you must have assumed that I was listening to the vinyl incarnations too. And although I indeed used to have the vinyl incarnations, I got rid of them and haven't listened to them in over 35 years. Things do progress! ;-)
. . . why the CD and SACD reissues sound so much better than the LP did! As you no doubt recall from my earlier post on this thread, I mentioned "I used to have both of these [Tchaikovsky Stokowski recordings] on vinyl, and found them a bit diffusely recorded on that medium". So it's pretty clear what must have happened: when the CD's (at least in a couple of incarnations) and the SACD's were released, they went back to the original recording, rather than the re-recording inside the church. And I'm certainly far from the only listener to have made this observation:"The present performances were not served well by the long-playing record, as they were taped quadraphonically but issued only in cloudy two-channel sound. Pentatone's remastering of the Philips tapes has resulted in conventional stereo reproduction of great sweetness as well as clarity, and those with SACD players can finally hear the vivid four-channel versions for the first time. Stokowski often was ahead of everyone else in sound reproduction-and here again is exciting proof, discovered 30 years later."
-Alan G. Artner, Chicago Tribune
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