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he transcribed a number of his works and the works of others. Transcription was incredibly common and an expected event in Baroque music.
That said, this isn't to my taste in Baroque musicianship.
By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.
Galileo Galilei
Processed, like "processed cheese food."
Honestly, it sounds like they ran it through a compressor and then did some "sweetening" EQ and then used some global reverb.
DG.
How sad.
jm
No question, the sound could have been processed for the streaming video. However, we'll have to see what the sound is really like when the hi-rez downloads come out. Lisa's DG Brahms Concerto (with Thielemann and the SkD) was available as a hi-rez download and it sounded great - the spectrographs looked very good too. (It would not necessarily show if post processing EQ or reverb was added however, but, certainly, compression would show up.)
DG has always done these sort of shenanigans - I feel they've gotten much better at it over the last decade or so. But I won't judge based based on a streaming video however.
It seemed obvious to me that in the video she was playing along with a pre-recorded take being played on a portable stereo, and so the sounds she was making were not being recorded. The tone of the violin did not change with camera angles, her pivoting, or her costume changes. The ambient background noise was--non-existent. The synch was not perfect, in any case.
About the synch: Yeah, I know about dropped-frame-rate time code and YT audio/video conflicts, but--this is one of the world's major media conglomerates. If anyone should be able to get such things right, they should.
Also, I think you could see hard compression but IMHO it is very hard to see musically tasteful compression on a graph or even hear it. Taking 1.5 dB off the peaks without flat-topping them I think would not be apparent later on to a third party.
BTW, in those shots she reminds me of Jane Olivor when she first started out.
JM
"It seemed obvious to me that in the video she was playing along with a pre-recorded take being played on a portable stereo, and so the sounds she was making were not being recorded. The tone of the violin did not change with camera angles, her pivoting, or her costume changes. The ambient background noise was--non-existent. The synch was not perfect, in any case."
Very likely on all your observations. I think this is pretty much par for the course in these kinds of videos. (It's also in the best traditions of Bollywood too FWIW!)
John - you've one-upped me with your cultural references: I had to look up who Jane Olivor was! ;-)
(1) Bollywood--Cute babes who ward off kisses.
(2) Jane Olivor--America's (slightly overcooked) answer to Edith Piaf--seriously.
I sat in the front row of on of her earliest album-tour concerts, and she bent over the footlights to shake hands with me and my then girlfriend, because the house had sold the comp tickets of the Mayor of Providence, who had not shown (and perhaps pocketed my cash!).
Priceless memories, and: She really could sing!!!
ATB,
John
BTA you (still?) support good simple minimal mike recordings, no?
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
PICKY PICKY PICKY...
Pretty nice.
She struck a good balance between overly romantic interpretation and the HIP crowd.
I can be a Nazi about vibrato in pre-late romantic music but this doesn't offend me, at least the short video that I watched.
"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
If Bach is viewed as a prelude to Romantic compositions, I apologize out of ignorance. I'm more used to a measured, technical Baroque approach. Instead, I hear a Chopin- or a Liszt-like approach.
Observe, before you think. Think before you open your yap. Act on the basis of experience.
You probably hate the Hyperion series of Bach Transcriptions for piano.
I love 'em.
For me, one of the things that makes Bach such a fantastic composer is that there can be all kinds of approaches to his music and it still sounds wonderful.
"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
Vibrato on a piano?
Who knew.
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"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
D2D 78's would have the least flutter. :^)
"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
and give me your impression of her impression.
Observe, before you think. Think before you open your yap. Act on the basis of experience.
I wonder if she can play without vibrato.
Yawwwwrrrrnnn.
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Question: do you differentiate wobble from vibrato, and if so, how? Is it a matter of width? That's kind of how I would differentiate it. So, needless to say, I would disagree with your characterization of the vibrato on Lisa's video as a "wobble" - but you already knew that anyway! ;-)
Pointless.
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Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
. . . is that on the sustained notes, she starts every one of them with no vibrato, and then about halfway through, adds the vibrato. Very mannered and predictable IMHO - and easy to see on the video (as well as hear). And she used to be such a good Bach player (back when she went by "Elisabeth")!
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"You weren't afraid of being born--why would you be afraid of dying?" Alan Watts
I think we've all had our say about vibrato. That little excerpt seems to indicate she's using less vibrato now than she used to - a worrying trend! ;-)What alarms me is her choice of that cover photo - it's the worst one she could have chosen, and it makes her appear so old! Arghh! (I do like the miniskirt in some of the shots on the video however!)
And to answer the OP, of course it's Bach - an arrangement to be sure, but still Bach.
Edits: 07/27/14
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